[200William-EC SP67851] FW: New Ducted AC at 205/200 William St Woolloomooloo

Tue Feb 2 19:29:02 AEDT 2021

Hello Matt and everyone,

I am one of the people who can speak openly about the problems of effective air-conditioning in an apartment – mine.  I have spent thousands of dollars, as Matt mentioned, to try and get air-conditioning which ‘works’ in all options of cool vs heating.  To no avail.  With my A/C on, I still have a very hot apartment during the summer.

We are NOT a deluxe, ‘luxury’ building.  A building which IS deluxe and luxury has a Concierge and pool and sizeable gym and a building manager, who is constantly looking at even the smallest of problems in the building and acts immediately.  Ours doesn’t any of these.

No one is going to look up at an air-conditioning unit on one of our balconies  (even if they can see it) and consider the building ‘ugly.’  People need to be kept cool during the hot summer and as we are not getting effective A/C cooling from the tower on level 8, then we need to look at alternatives for them.

Please, let’s make this simple.  This owner wants A/C so that they or the tenant can enjoy the apartment.   Yes, it may mean a compressor is installed on the balcony, however they are extremely quiet and as a non-deluxe, non-luxury building, we are NOT in a quiet area anyway!

Please consider we have more membrane concerns (level 7 west)  than a quiet compressor for A/C on any balcony.  Dripping water on a balcony?  Consider again that with rain or humidity the balcony will have water on it, at some point, anyway.  In that situation, the membrane is the question, not water flow.

Can the members of the Body Corporate please come together and get this request passed so that the owner/tenant can enjoy their home with the A/C they are requesting.

Regards,

Craig Laforest

From: ec-bounces at 200william.com <ec-bounces at 200william.com> On Behalf Of Matt Perkins
Sent: Tuesday, 2 February 2021 4:13 PM
To: ec at 200william.com
Subject: Re: [200William-EC SP67851] FW: New Ducted AC at 205/200 William St Woolloomooloo

I feel like I have been through this 100 times. But hear we go again. 

The balcony is common property. An exclusive use bylaw would be required by EGM to allow a split system aircon to be installed. (EC cant approve) 

The building has a cooling tower and as such was designed with a cooling tower recirculating water system HVAC with internal apartment compressor (not external as they note bellow so not the same as indicated) 

The building waste condensate water is piped from inside the apartment directly into internal drains not onto balconys some balconies do drain onto others. Unless their aircon guy has looked at the Hydraulic plans of the building he would have no idea where it drains to. 

Dripping water onto balcony may cause leaks in the future. 

Vibrations of compressors on the balcony may cause leaks in the future and complicate membrane repairs on balcony in the future if needed. 

Running gas piping between the external compressor and the internal fan unit will require penetration between inside and outside by removing bricks drilling holes etc. A future area for water ingress. 

Noise generated by an external compressor (opposed to one inside the apartment as it is now) may be transmitted to lower floors. 

We do not have council approval in our original  D/A for  external compressors. 

External air con units are ugly and not in keeping with the look of the building. 

Once we have approved one unit a precedent  will be set and they will appear on all other apartments. 

Costs of GAS and Electricity in the BMC are split by the SMS taking into account that all apartments use the common use aircon. Will this owner demand a strata plan of sub division to change there entitlement units as they dont use building HVAC ? 

I feel for the owner with costs involved but to be fair we are all in the same boat. If you look around the area there are almost no external aircon units on balcony's of like buildings. External units are common place in less prestige buildings sure But we are trying to keep the image of the building high. 

Many other owners have replaced their air con units at great cost and worked within the rules I know I have 601 has and 401 has likely there are more.   Elan, Zenith, Horizon, Omnia all have cooling tower systems and not external air cons banging away into the hot summer night dripping water everywhere.  Almost every building that was constructed after 2000 in this area does.  It's not an Auburn 1980's tower block with an aircon out every balcony. 

That's my 2c im sure i could go on but you get the picture this is a very bad idea and will bite us in the backside one day. 

Matt

On 2/2/21 2:53 pm, Leanne Eardley wrote:

Good Afternoon Committee, 

The managing agent of unit 205 has been in contact with the recommended a/c contractor that services the building (city to surf air), and advised that the proposed cost of $10k is not an option for the Owner. 

As such, they would like the committee to reconsider their a/c application for the split system installation, copy attached. They have also advised the following: 

Lot 17 balcony is in line with the balcony below & above.

The balcony is designed as an external area, tiles with a floor waste for water next to the compressor location so the pipe will run into it not “drip off the balcony”.

Compressor noise from the Ducted System is no different to a Split System compressor. Both use a compressor.

Please review and discuss, this decision will need to be documented by way of a formal committee meeting, so if you would like me to arrange an online voting committee meeting, or a teleconference to discuss and make determination, please let me know. 

Kind Regards, 

Leanne Eardley

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From: Regal Court Real Estate  <mailto:general at regalcourt.com.au> <general at regalcourt.com.au> 
Sent: Friday, 29 January 2021 2:37 PM
To: Deborah O'Brien  <mailto:dobrien at stratatitle.com.au> <dobrien at stratatitle.com.au>
Cc: Leanne Eardley  <mailto:leardley at stratatitle.com.au> <leardley at stratatitle.com.au>
Subject: FW: New Ducted AC at 205/200 William St Woolloomooloo

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Dear Deborah,

We have received the email below from the recommended air conditioning company. The cost of $10K+ is not an option for the owner, especially under the current economic climate with COVID-19. The owner has already suffered financial loss due to being unable to lease an un-air condition apartment.

The split system that was previously detailed we have had installed in many strata buildings with no issues and should any arise we would take action to rectify. Could you please discuss this with the committee as we now have a tenant who needs air conditioning.

Kind Regards

Lili Brzevska

Regal Court Real Estate

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Sent: Monday, 25 January 2021 9:06 AM
To: Regal Court Real Estate < <mailto:general at regalcourt.com.au> general at regalcourt.com.au>
Subject: Re: New Ducted AC at 205/200 William St Woolloomooloo

Hi Tino,

These a/c units are no longer in production. 

A custom made unit will need to be manufactured which has a lead time of around 8 weeks.

An estimated cost for supply and installation would be $10K - $12K.

If the owner is interested then we can attend site to take the required measurements.

If the  owner wishes to discuss the situation, please forward on my number.

Thank you,

Brendan

Kind Regards,

The Service Team

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On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 12:24 PM Regal Court Real Estate <general at regalcourt.com.au <mailto:general at regalcourt.com.au> > wrote:

Good afternoon

We were given your details by strata at 200 William St Woolloomooloo as you’ve worked there before.

They are an old model Temperzone ducted system with very narrow access.

It’s been removed by someone long ago so a repair isn’t possible.

Please quote for a new installation in unit 205.

It’s vacant at the moment so easy access anytime just call Tino on 0414 598 973.

Urgently as we have a new tenant moving in soon.

Kind Regards

Tino Brzevski

Regal Court Real Estate

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