[200William-EC SP67851] FW: New Ducted AC at 205/200 William St Woolloomooloo

Matt Perkins matt at spectrum.com.au
Tue Feb 2 19:32:58 AEDT 2021


Respectfully Craig i disagree. But im happy to go with the consensus.

Matt


On 2/2/21 7:29 pm, Craig Laforest wrote:
>
> Hello Matt and everyone,
>
> I am one of the people who can speak openly about the problems of 
> effective air-conditioning in an apartment – mine.  I have spent 
> thousands of dollars, as Matt mentioned, to try and get 
> air-conditioning which ‘works’ in all options of cool vs heating.  To 
> no avail.  With my A/C on, I still have a very hot apartment during 
> the summer.
>
> We are NOT a deluxe, ‘luxury’ building.  A building which IS deluxe 
> and luxury has a Concierge and pool and sizeable gym and a building 
> manager, who is constantly looking at even the smallest of problems in 
> the building and acts immediately.  Ours doesn’t any of these.
>
> No one is going to look up at an air-conditioning unit on one of our 
> balconies  (even if they can see it) and consider the building 
> ‘ugly.’  People need to be kept cool during the hot summer and as we 
> are not getting effective A/C cooling from the tower on level 8, then 
> we need to look at alternatives for them.
>
> Please, let’s make this simple.  This owner wants A/C so that they or 
> the tenant can enjoy the apartment.   Yes, it may mean a compressor is 
> installed on the balcony, however they are extremely quiet and as a 
> non-deluxe, non-luxury building, we are NOT in a quiet area anyway!
>
> Please consider we have more membrane concerns (level 7 west)  than a 
> quiet compressor for A/C on any balcony.  Dripping water on a balcony? 
>  Consider again that with rain or humidity the balcony will have water 
> on it, at some point, anyway.  In that situation, the membrane is the 
> question, not water flow.
>
> Can the members of the Body Corporate please come together and get 
> this request passed so that the owner/tenant can enjoy their home with 
> the A/C they are requesting.
>
> Regards,
>
> Craig Laforest
>
> *From:*ec-bounces at 200william.com <ec-bounces at 200william.com> *On 
> Behalf Of *Matt Perkins
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 2 February 2021 4:13 PM
> *To:* ec at 200william.com
> *Subject:* Re: [200William-EC SP67851] FW: New Ducted AC at 205/200 
> William St Woolloomooloo
>
> I feel like I have been through this 100 times. But hear we go again.
>
> The balcony is common property. An exclusive use bylaw would be 
> required by EGM to allow a split system aircon to be installed. (EC 
> cant approve)
>
> The building has a cooling tower and as such was designed with a 
> cooling tower recirculating water system HVAC with _internal_ 
> apartment compressor (not external as they note bellow so not the same 
> as indicated)
>
> The building waste condensate water is piped from inside the apartment 
> directly into internal drains not onto balconys some balconies do 
> drain onto others. Unless their aircon guy has looked at the Hydraulic 
> plans of the building he would have no idea where it drains to.
>
> Dripping water onto balcony may cause leaks in the future.
>
> Vibrations of compressors on the balcony may cause leaks in the future 
> and complicate membrane repairs on balcony in the future if needed.
>
> Running gas piping between the external compressor and the internal 
> fan unit will require penetration between inside and outside by 
> removing bricks drilling holes etc. A future area for water ingress.
>
> Noise generated by an external compressor (opposed to one inside the 
> apartment as it is now) may be transmitted to lower floors.
>
> We do not have council approval in our original  D/A for external 
> compressors.
>
> External air con units are ugly and not in keeping with the look of 
> the building.
>
> Once we have approved one unit a precedent  will be set and they will 
> appear on all other apartments.
>
> Costs of GAS and Electricity in the BMC are split by the SMS taking 
> into account that all apartments use the common use aircon. Will this 
> owner demand a strata plan of sub division to change there entitlement 
> units as they dont use building HVAC ?
>
> I feel for the owner with costs involved but to be fair we are all in 
> the same boat. If you look around the area there are almost no 
> external aircon units on balcony's of like buildings. External units 
> are common place in less prestige buildings sure But we are trying to 
> keep the image of the building high.
>
> Many other owners have replaced their air con units at great cost and 
> worked within the rules I know I have 601 has and 401 has likely there 
> are more.   Elan, Zenith, Horizon, Omnia all have cooling tower 
> systems and not external air cons banging away into the hot summer 
> night dripping water everywhere. Almost every building that was 
> constructed after 2000 in this area does.  It's not an Auburn 1980's 
> tower block with an aircon out every balcony.
>
> That's my 2c im sure i could go on but you get the picture this is a 
> very bad idea and will bite us in the backside one day.
>
> Matt
>
> On 2/2/21 2:53 pm, Leanne Eardley wrote:
>
>     Good Afternoon Committee,
>
>     The managing agent of unit 205 has been in contact with the
>     recommended a/c contractor that services the building (city to
>     surf air), and advised that the proposed cost of $10k is not an
>     option for the Owner.
>
>     As such, they would like the committee to reconsider their a/c
>     application for the split system installation, copy attached. They
>     have also advised the following:
>
>     /Lot 17 balcony is in line with the balcony below & above./
>
>     /The balcony is designed as an external area, tiles with a floor
>     waste for water next to the compressor location so the pipe will
>     run into it not “drip off the balcony”./
>
>     /Compressor noise from the Ducted System is no different to a
>     Split System compressor. Both use a compressor./
>
>     Please review and discuss, this decision will need to be
>     documented by way of a formal committee meeting, so if you would
>     like me to arrange an online voting committee meeting, or a
>     teleconference to discuss and make determination, please let me know.
>
>     Kind Regards,
>
>     *Leanne Eardley*
>
>     Senior Community Manager
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>     *From:*Regal Court Real Estate <general at regalcourt.com.au>
>     <mailto:general at regalcourt.com.au>
>     *Sent:* Friday, 29 January 2021 2:37 PM
>     *To:* Deborah O'Brien <dobrien at stratatitle.com.au>
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>     *Cc:* Leanne Eardley <leardley at stratatitle.com.au>
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>     *Subject:* FW: New Ducted AC at 205/200 William St Woolloomooloo
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>     Dear Deborah,
>
>     We have received the email below from the recommended air
>     conditioning company. The cost of $10K+ is not an option for the
>     owner, especially under the current economic climate with
>     COVID-19. The owner has already suffered financial loss due to
>     being unable to lease an un-air condition apartment.
>
>     The split system that was previously detailed we have had
>     installed in many strata buildings with no issues and should any
>     arise we would take action to rectify. Could you please discuss
>     this with the committee as we now have a tenant who needs air
>     conditioning.
>
>     Kind Regards
>
>     Lili Brzevska
>
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>     *From:*Service City to Surf Air <service at citytosurfair.com.au
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>     *Sent:* Monday, 25 January 2021 9:06 AM
>     *To:* Regal Court Real Estate <general at regalcourt.com.au
>     <mailto:general at regalcourt.com.au>>
>     *Subject:* Re: New Ducted AC at 205/200 William St Woolloomooloo
>
>     Hi Tino,
>
>     These a/c units are no longer in production.
>
>     A custom made unit will need to be manufactured which has a lead
>     time of around 8 weeks.
>
>     An estimated cost for supply and installation would be $10K - $12K.
>
>     If the owner is interested then we can attend site to take the
>     required measurements.
>
>     If the  owner wishes to discuss the situation, please forward on
>     my number.
>
>     Thank you,
>
>     Brendan
>
>     Kind Regards,
>
>     The Service Team
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>     On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 12:24 PM Regal Court Real Estate
>     <general at regalcourt.com.au <mailto:general at regalcourt.com.au>> wrote:
>
>         Good afternoon
>
>         We were given your details by strata at 200 William St
>         Woolloomooloo as you’ve worked there before.
>
>         They are an old model Temperzone ducted system with very
>         narrow access.
>
>         It’s been removed by someone long ago so a repair isn’t possible.
>
>         Please quote for a new installation in unit 205.
>
>         It’s vacant at the moment so easy access anytime just call
>         Tino on 0414 598 973.
>
>         Urgently as we have a new tenant moving in soon.
>
>         Kind Regards
>
>         Tino Brzevski
>
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