[200William-EC] MARQUIS - NORTH FACING APARTMENTS

Tue Apr 9 12:57:46 EST 2013

No attack taken...

Council have picked up that C3.6 is absent from the statement. They have
provided 14 days to have rectified otherwise they will impose fines. If
this measure isn't corrected then they will enforce a fire order on the
building.

I thought the sticker option would be the cheaper and quickest measure
around this.

The second option would be to install an audible device and a flashing
light. This would take a bit longer considering the work involved and
more expensive. If this measure was approved then the conduit would run:

1.       From the FIP room on Dowling st and through AVIS car park to
the laneway

2.       Run up the wall between the 01 and 02 balcony dividing walls

3.       At each balcony a conduit will be fixed to the face of the wall
where the audible siren and alarm will be placed. The size of these
items would be no more than 100mm in diameter. 

I have asked the fire company to provide a quote.

C3.6 Sliding fire doors

(a) If a doorway in a fire wall is fitted with a sliding fire door which
is open when the

building is in use-

(i) it must be held open with an electromagnetic device, which when
de-activated

in accordance with (b), allows the door to be fully closed not less than

20 seconds, and not more than 30 seconds, after release; and

(ii) in the event of power failure to the door-the door must fail safe
in the closed

position in accordance with (i); and

(iii) an audible warning device must be located near the doorway and a
red

flashing warning light of adequate intensity on each side of the doorway
must

be activated in accordance with (b); and

Building Code of Australia-Volume One-PART C3 Page 75

(iv) signs must be installed on each side of the doorway located
directly over the

opening stating-

WARNING-SLIDING FIRE DOOR

in capital letters not less than 50 mm high in a colour contrasting with
the

background.

________________________________________________________ 
George Ziri | Operations

Building Facilities Management Solutions Pty Ltd

Direct: 0400 300 242 | Facsimile: 9547 3132 | PO BOX A2319 SYDNEY SOUTH
NSW 1235

visit us www.bfms.com.au <http://www.bfms.com.au> 

From: ec-bounces at 200william.com [mailto:ec-bounces at 200william.com] On
Behalf Of Matt Perkins
Sent: Tuesday, 9 April 2013 10:31 AM
To: ec at 200william.com
Subject: Re: [200William-EC] MARQUIS - NORTH FACING APARTMENTS

Hi George,
 Let me provide a more considered response now that I have thought about
it a bit.  Firstly I would like to declare a conflict of interest in
that my property is one of the effected apartments and I believe that a
sign of this nature will directly effect the resale value of my
apartment. Through obstruction of the view and  esthetics with it's
positioning. Secondly it brings to the attention of any perspective
buyers that there is something not quite normal with our apartment. That
being the 10,000L of ULP  under the ramp in the basement. 

Also George please dont think this is directed at you. We appreciate you
are getting all the facts together for us and understand your on the
clock. 

Can you please provide the relevant legislation/act/decree that
stipulates this sign. 
Can you also give us an idea of the ramifications of not complying . Im
guessing we will not get a fire compliance certificate and will be fined
(that is the owners corp will be fined)  
Is there any sort of appeal process or area where special consideration
can be given. 
Can we ask the building architect/engineer for other options that comply
with the legislation/act/decree 

Just to let you know my kitchen does not back on to this door. I have
two doors one is in the middle of the lounge room the other is in a
bedroom. The bedroom door does not have a single segment larger then
700mm so a 730mm sign simply would not fit.  The longe one has a curtain
pelmet and could not be seen anyway at the top.  

Matt.

On 8/04/13 5:50 PM, George Ziri wrote:

	Good Afternoon All,

	The north Facing apartments shown below have an automatic
sliding door which activates (closes) when the fire alarm activates. The
reason only the North facing sliding doors are equipped with this is due
to AVIS's on site fuel situation. 

	As part of the fire safety statement Council has picked up that
measure C3.6 is required to be certified and have given us until the
14.4.13. What is required is a sign to be "displayed at both sides of
the door entry". This is to remind residents that the door may shut at
anytime (fire alarm activation) 

	In most cases the kitchen backs on to the sliding door and will
be impossible to have it close to the door. I have suggested to place on
each side of glass to each door.

	Your thoughts please. The signs need to be up by the 14th of
this month. Therefore require a agreement by Wednesday this week.

	101,102,201,202,301,302,401,402,501,502

	________________________________________________________ 
	George Ziri | Operations

	Building Facilities Management Solutions Pty Ltd

	Direct: 0400 300 242 | Facsimile: 9547 3132 | PO BOX A2319
SYDNEY SOUTH NSW 1235

	visit us www.bfms.com.au <http://www.bfms.com.au> 

	From: Thurston Signs [mailto:thurstonsigns at bigpond.com] 
	Sent: Monday, 8 April 2013 3:31 PM
	To: George Ziri
	Subject: Thurston Signs

	Hi George,
	Please see attached file, 2 stickers, BACK TO BACK.

	Kind Regards Lee

	On 5/04/2013 4:50 PM, George Ziri wrote:

		Hi Lee,

		I need a sticker with the txt below. I will be placing
on a glass sliding door and the text needs to be visible on both sides
of the door.

		WARNING-SLIDING FIRE DOOR

		in capital letters not less than 50 mm high in a colour
contrasting with the

		background.

		________________________________________________________

		George Ziri | Operations

		Building Facilities Management Solutions Pty Ltd

		Direct: 0400 300 242 | Facsimile: 9547 3132 | PO BOX
A2319 SYDNEY SOUTH NSW 1235

		visit us www.bfms.com.au <http://www.bfms.com.au> 

		From: NFS Vadim [mailto:vadim at newsound.com.au] 
		Sent: Friday, 5 April 2013 7:46 AM
		To: George Ziri
		Subject: RE: 200 WIlliam

		Yes sticker is fine as per below dimensions.

		Best Regards

		Vadim

		From: George Ziri [mailto:Georgeziri at bfms.com.au] 
		Sent: Thursday, 4 April 2013 7:55 PM
		To: NFS Vadim
		Subject: RE: 200 WIlliam

		Thanks Vadim.

		Can we make a sticker and place it on either side of the
door?

		________________________________________________________

		George Ziri | Operations

		Building Facilities Management Solutions Pty Ltd

		Direct: 0400 300 242 | Facsimile: 9547 3132 | PO BOX
A2319 SYDNEY SOUTH NSW 1235

		visit us www.bfms.com.au <http://www.bfms.com.au> 

		From: NFS Vadim [mailto:vadim at newsound.com.au] 
		Sent: Thursday, 4 April 2013 3:00 PM
		To: George Ziri
		Subject: 200 WIlliam

		Hi George,

		Since council is only request for fire safety measure -
Warning Operational Signs we only need to install sign that complies to
C3.6

		From BCA:

		signs must be installed on each side of the doorway
located directly over the

		opening stating-

		WARNING-SLIDING FIRE DOOR

		in capital letters not less than 50 mm high in a colour
contrasting with the

		background.

		Are these signs installed on site? If so can you take a
photo then I can certify the signs.  If not we need to install them.

		Costs per sign around $120+GST minimum amount to be
charged $200+GST

		Should you have any further questions or queries please
do not hesitate to contact us.

		Regards,

		Vadim Shargorodsky
		Operations Manager

		Newsound Fire Services Pty Ltd
		3 Raymond St East, P.O. Box 249 Lidcombe NSW 2141

		P: (02) 9646 2455
		F: (02) 9749 1059
		M:+61 425 309 741
		www.newsound.com.au <http://www.newsound.com.au/> 

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