[200WILLIAM-EC SP67851] Security Camera Upgrade

[Paul Mooney]

Matt,

Excellent , thank you.

Clarifying one point, I’m not ‘paranoid about jobs for mates’ but I like to know how our system works here. I appreciate the effort you put in but sometimes think too much responsibility rests with you instead of collectively or with management.

I am in favour of replacing the dummy cameras for real ones and will comply with majority re elevators once you get the quote in.

Kind regards

Paul



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> On 7 Nov 2023, at 9:00 am, matt at perkins.id.au wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Paul,
> 
> Two quotes were obtained, one from the incumbent and one from a security firm that I use in my business. The incumbent came in around $1200 cheaper mainly because they could use the existing equipment rather than new equipment. I know you're paranoid about jobs for mates and these sorts of things. But I can assure you this is not the case here. I will dig up the quote and post it when I get a second later today I showed the security guys around with William. I accompanied the contractors myself as I wanted to ensure the work is exactly as we spoke about in our meeting. The fine detail of the camera positions I don't think could have been portrayed accurately third hand. Both companies had the same solutions with the exception of an additional DVR.
> 
> Both companies said only registered lift contractors could run cable in the lift. Which is why we are going back to Lift Tronic to get that part of the quote. William is working on that now as he usually works with the lift guys. We have given the lift guys just enough information to make it as cheap as possible and given them no scope to inflate the quote.

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> 
> Matt.
>> On 7 Nov 2023 at 7:38 AM +1100, Paul Mooney <paulmooney at manxpm.com.au>, wrote:
>> Good morning Matt,
>> 
>> Can you clarify the quote process for me please.
>> 
>> Did we actually ask three companies to come and quote for this remedial work or did we just ask the one company we have dealt with before?
>> 
>> Is this task being undertaken by you or have our management been instructed to follow through, because it seems a lot of additional work for you.
>> 
>> Do we have a written quote or quotes that we can check before making our final decision on who gets the job ?
>> 
>> BTW I am in favour of the upgrade, particularly in the elevators but was interested to see if different companies had same or different solutions.
>> 
>> Kind regards
>> 
>> Paul
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 6 Nov 2023, at 7:19 pm, matt at perkins.id.au wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Initial quotes are in for the cameras as per our discussion from the other week. The cheapest option appears to be using the existing systems which have enough capacity for the additional cameras that we spoke of. The biggest cost is getting cable to the eastern side. Which covers both the rear lane camera and Mcenvoy st. The price is just under $5900. This does not include lift cameras.
>>> 
>>> The price for the lift cameras is $2615 + the cost of cable inside the lift shaft which we are waiting for a quote for from LiftTronic. Both security people I spoke to said that wireless cameras in lifts were unreliable and I could only find one company that did wireless and they did not have any/poor reviews.
>>> 
>>> Once LiftTronic gets back to us regarding the lift camera cable, we will know where we stand as far as that goes and I will follow up.
>>> 
>>> If we all agree with the $5860 quote, I will ask Arnold for his permission to continue. If he gives me push back on the cost, then we may have to pay the entire cost as a last resort. We can review the lift cameras when we get the quote from LiftTronic. But I thought we may not want to hold up the rest of the work for that. Lift guys are slow.
>>> 
>>> As far as my vote goes, I think it's an unnecessary expense right now. I know you all will not likely agree with that, and that's okay. As always, I will support the democracy and advocate for the majority.
>>> 
>>> Warm regards
>>> Matt.
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