[200William-EC SP67851] EXT - Re: SP 67851 - Air Conditioning Request
Matt Perkins
matt at spectrum.com.au
Tue Dec 17 12:23:46 AEDT 2019
Thanks Darren,
So your saying both the controller and compress are both destroyed.
That sounds amazingly odd.
Does the owner have fusion insurance as part of their home insurance that might be worth investigating. Both dead sounds more like a power surge more then worn out.
Also there is no need to replace the controller with another Honeywell. There are plenty of other options that will work with simple relays. It does not put any calls up to the cooling tower anymore as the owner of 402 cut the cable to the lower part of the building 6 years ago and the pumps have all been running on manual ever since.
Replacement of compressors is common place I’m not sure why a custom built unit is even being considered given city to surf have confirmed water flow through the coil. These units are really really simple and there’re no reason why they can not be maintained indefinitely as long as compressors can be obtained which in this case looks like they can.
If the owner wanted to really install a split system the install of the unit drafting of bylaw approval at EGM/AGM and installing of plumbing for the condensate water which our building has no provision for would be over 5k and then it would have to pass a vote.
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> On 17 Dec 2019, at 10:28 am, Marquis <Marquis at bfms.com.au> wrote:
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> Hi All,
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> Sorry for the delay.
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> I’ve spoken with City To Surf Air regarding the unit and they have confirmed the water feed is not clogged. A new compressor is 3K and a new controller is 2K. Complete replacement will require a custom made unit as the location of the water pipes underneath restricts in installation of off the shelf units. I have confirmed that the pipework can’t be modified to suit. The cost of a custom made unit is approx. 10K with a 2-3 month turnaround time.
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> Sarkis, can you confirm if the lot owner contacted Noppen Air or T&M Air for a 2nd opinion/comparative cost? Thanks
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> Kind regards,
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> Darren Vignes
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> From: MQ 302 - Matt Perkins <matt at spectrum.com.au>
> Date: Thursday, 12 December 2019 at 1:11 pm
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> Cc: Marquis <Marquis at bfms.com.au>
> Subject: EXT - Re: [200William-EC SP67851] SP 67851 - Air Conditioning Request
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> Darren are you across this one. Is there compressor even dead. They are really reliable units. It’s more likely the water feed is clogged
> At the regulator tap. As for the controller needing replacement that sounds like rubbish those Honeywell units last for ever. But even if it needed to be the control gear for the units in our building is simple relays. There’s lots of easy replacements around. This all sounds a bit like a backyard operator trying to sell the only aircon he knows how to install. Interested to know if he is a licensed electrician as well. I suspect he’s only got a fridge licence.
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> I will give you a ring later
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> On 12 Dec 2019, at 11:01 am, Matt Perkins <matt at spectrum.com.au> wrote:
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> 1) Noise of compressors on balcony/Noise to neighbors.
> 2) Balcony's are common property fixing compressor units to them would require a vote of special resolution at an AGM. (Strata Act)
> 3) Damage to Balcony membrane. (common property)
> 4) Building has a cooling tower and infrastructure geared to cooling tower HVAC. Will the owner want a discount on their levies because they don't use it ?
> 5) Penetration of walls required for condenser gas pipes required. Exclusive use bylaw required for penetrations of common property.
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> The EC could not approve this even if we wanted to it's common property a bylaw would be required. Our building is not scared the the blight of compressors on every balcony. Im confident that once quotes are received from our incumbent HVAC provider it will be more appropriate. Water condenser units are not 12k
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> Darren could you perhaps get City to Surf to talk / quote to this owner 12k is crazy. It just needs a compressor replacement. It a very normal thing to do for high end HVAC people in commercial environments. Or ask Licensed to chill will also sort them out. The compressor is about $1500 ~ $1800 and should be no more then a days labor.
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> On 12/12/19 11:40 am, Sarkis Mouawad wrote:
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> Even though I have directed this lot to other contractors and explained the situation with the installation of split systems, they seem to ignore my advice.
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> Can anyone provide me with a response to provide to the owner?
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> Warm regards,
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