[200William-EC SP67851] SP 67851 - Basement Flooding & Fuel Odour from Avis
Robin Patrick
robin.j.patrick at gmail.com
Mon Apr 3 17:32:36 AEST 2017
No problem Matt. Once I have the notes from Patrick I'll draft something
for review by the EC.
On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 4:52 PM, Matt Perkins <matt at spectrum.com.au> wrote:
> Hi Robin,
> I would be very happy for you to take this up. I cant help but thing as
> both the Avis tank and the Sewer Pump are under the same ramp that they
> having something to do with each other. But as Nobody in Avis or the
> commercial strata seem to care. I see no other alternative but to get the
> EPA involved.
>
>
> Matt.
>
>
>
> On 3/4/17 4:40 pm, Robin Patrick wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> the fuel odor is back (not as severe as the first round) however was very
> noticeable today. The cleaner informed me that it was also strong
> yesterday. I am happy to take this up and be the author of the letter as I
> think we need to get this on the radar of the council/EPA and also the AVIS
> head office.
>
> Patrick, are you able to give me a run down of our investigations and your
> conversations that pointed us to AVIS etc, and I will craft into a letter
> to send back to the EC for approval. At that point we can decide who's name
> is best placed.
>
> Many thanks
>
> Robin
>
> On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 7:19 PM, Ed Sainsbury <edsainsbury at ozemail.com.au>
> wrote:
>
>> Agreed. Who is in a position to have the details for Council?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Ed
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On 23 Mar 2017, at 3:40 pm, Matt Perkins <matt at spectrum.com.au> wrote:
>>
>> I say let's ring Sydney council and the EPA and let them figure it out
>> for us. Only other thing I can think of is to go back over the camera
>> footage from the Friday when the smell began and see if there are any
>> outside influence at work. But judging by the amount of fuel that our
>> plumber said he detected it could not be a car leaking. Would need to be
>> someone emptying a Jerry can down the drain. Which i guess is possible and
>> should be ruled out .
>>
>>
>> Matt
>>
>>
>> On 23/3/17 1:30 pm, Patrick Rush wrote:
>>
>> Dear Committee,
>>
>>
>>
>> I have had Metro Coty Plumbing re-attend site earlier this week with
>> Darren, Ben Mees and his assistant Building Manager from BMAUS and AVIS’s
>> Manager.
>>
>> AVIS had advised the below over the weekend and as they believe there is
>> no issue with their fuel tank, believe the fuel odour is coming from
>> another area.
>>
>>
>>
>> *“ Gilbarco have inspected and are of the opinion no fuel is leaking from
>> our system. They believe it is pure coincidence that the amount of rain we
>> have has created a puddle in the spot in question. When lit up you can
>> actually see the water trickling from the adjacent storage area into the
>> car spot, and they believe there was probably dried petrol from a parked
>> car and when mixed with the rain water it has caused this issue.*
>>
>>
>>
>> At this stage the is not much more that I can do and my hands are tied as
>> the only way to confirm if the fuel tank is the cause of the fuel leak is
>> to empty the tank and pressure test for leaks.
>>
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>> As the tank is the property of AVIS this cannot be undertaken unless
>> agreed by AVIS which is not going to be the case as per Tyler form Metro
>> City’s attached report due to the costs that will be incurred.
>>
>>
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>> The report details that the area should be monitored, as Tyler states
>> that his initial attached report still stands.
>>
>>
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>> *Darren, can you please monitor over the next few days and confirm if the
>> odour is worse, better or is constant?*
>>
>>
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> *Patrick Rush*
>>
>> Strata Manager
>>
>>
>>
>> Phone: (02) 9266 2600 | Email: prush at stratatitle.com.au
>> <northshore at stratatitle.com.au> | Address: PO Box 2727, Taren Point, NSW
>> 2229
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>> *From:* ec-bounces at 200william.com [mailto:ec-bounces at 200william.com
>> <ec-bounces at 200william.com>] *On Behalf Of *Ed Sainsbury
>> *Sent:* Saturday, 18 March 2017 11:47 AM
>> *To:* Matt Perkins <matt at spectrum.com.au> <matt at spectrum.com.au>
>> *Cc:* ec at 200william.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [200William-EC SP67851] SP 67851 - Basement Flooding &
>> Fuel Odour from Avis
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>>
>> EC,
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>> Agree. Patrick would you please pass on this to Avis and then Sydney
>> Council if you don't get a prompt response.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Edward
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On 17 Mar 2017, at 11:15 am, Matt Perkins <matt at spectrum.com.au> wrote:
>>
>> Fully support that Robin. Sydney council. Sydney water and work cover
>> I'm sure have interests here.
>>
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>> Office 1300 133 299 matt at spectrum.com.au
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>> On 17 Mar 2017, at 10:57 am, Robin Patrick <robin.j.patrick at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Agreed. Thanks Patrick.
>>
>>
>>
>> Now that we know the problem can you (as you no doubt already have)
>> impress on AVIS/the commercial strata that I/we would like to see a solid
>> action plan for how this will be resolved by end of day Tuesday, including
>> how the matter will be future proofed. Feel free to share with them (if you
>> feel appropriate) that if not, I will personally press the matter
>> rigorously with both AVIS head office and the EPA. I would also insist that
>> that action plan include not just stopping the leaking but also a clean up
>> of the spill that has invaded the B4 basement, particularly mine and
>> Craig's areas.
>>
>>
>>
>> Also, I know not my decision alone, but I would be in favour of a strong
>> communication back to the commercial strata that I/we am not willing to
>> entertain any request for drainage, or other cooperation/action until this
>> matter is resolved. While I am sympathetic to AVIS and their water and
>> potential urine problem, i would like to remind them that for the last
>> several days I have had to breath through a towel in the lift, had
>> carcinogenic petrol fumes inside my apartment and petrol pooling in my car
>> spot... and it is continuing to occur. While I am ranting at them I would
>> also request them to fix their lights on top of the building. But of course
>> this is a sample of one and I will leave it to your diplomatic discretion
>> as to how to drive us to the best outcome.
>>
>>
>>
>> thanks again for all of your help.
>>
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>> On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 6:49 PM, Matt Perkins <matt at spectrum.com.au>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Patrick.
>>
>> A big thank you for getting the right guys for this job. Needless to say
>> we would be sleeping on a bomb had it not been for your work. Manny thanks
>>
>>
>>
>> I am very unhappy with Avis and particularly
>>
>> The commercial strata's attitude to this crisis. The long term effects of
>> exposure to these fumes and the potential harm could have easily been
>> averted had they not negligently denied what was obvious to anyone with a
>> working olfactory system.
>>
>>
>>
>> Matt
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>> --
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>> /* Matt Perkins
>>
>> Direct 1300 137 379 Spectrum Networks Ptd. Ltd.
>>
>> Office 1300 133 299 matt at spectrum.com.au
>>
>> Fax 1300 133 255 Level 6, 350 George Street Sydney 2000
>>
>> SIP 1300137379 at sip.spectrum.com.au
>>
>> Google Talk MattAPerkins at gmail.com
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>> On 16 Mar 2017, at 5:26 pm, Patrick Rush <prush at stratatitle.com.au>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Committee,
>>
>>
>>
>> Please see attached the report and images from Metro City Plumbing’s
>> inspection of the fuel odour and possible spillage which I have also sent
>> to the Commercial Building Management Company to pass onto Avis.
>>
>>
>> I have requested an official response from Avis and details of what
>> action they have taken and will pass their response once I have this in
>> writing.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> *Patrick Rush*
>>
>> Strata Manager
>>
>>
>>
>> Phone: (02) 9266 2600 | Email: prush at stratatitle.com.au
>> <northshore at stratatitle.com.au> | Address: PO Box 2727, Taren Point, NSW
>> 2229
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>> *From:* Patrick Rush
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 15 March 2017 4:35 PM
>> *To:* ec at 200william.com; 'Marquis' <Marquis at bfms.com.au>
>> *Cc:* Kristine Naylor <knaylor at stratatitle.com.au>
>> *Subject:* RE: SP 67851 - Basement Flooding & Fuel Odour from Avis
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear Committee,
>>
>>
>>
>> As an update on the fuel odour throughout the building, the Building
>> Management company for commercial as well as AVIS deny any such odour even
>> though the cleaner for the BMC was contacted this morning and advised there
>> was still a strong odour, I have organised for an independent plumber to
>> attend and investigate the matter.
>>
>>
>>
>> Metro City have the required equipment to test for combustibles and
>> located the source of these.
>>
>>
>>
>> Metro City Plumbing will provide an urgent report which I will send to
>> you once received.
>>
>>
>>
>> I will advise accordingly.
>>
>>
>>
>> Please also see the below email report which will be followed with a
>> complete report early next week relating to the issues surrounding the
>> pooling in basement car park Level 4.
>>
>>
>> Some of these items may well be BMC, such as plumbing and sewerage. I
>> have also sent the below to the Commercial (SP 67850) Building Mangers to
>> have AVIS rectify the highlighted matter urgently as this defective -
>>
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>> *Hi Patrick, Following the investigation I am pleased to inform that we
>> have identified the source of the water ingress into car bays 12 and 15.
>> There is an existing in-ground general purpose arrestor and sewer pump wet
>> well in the ramp adjacent the car bays. The in-ground arrestor and pump wet
>> well have been installed within a cut out in the slab. It appears that
>> ground water has entered into the cut out surrounding the sewer pump wet
>> well. The ground water is applying hydrostatic pressure to the carpark slab
>> which is presenting as surface water. As part of the current commission AJ
>> Whipps will provide a scope of works addressing the source of water
>> ingress. This will include draining of the ground water in the cut out with
>> new pumps and restoring the operation of the in-ground sewer wet well
>> system to ensure the structural integrity of the carpark slab is maintained
>> whilst providing safe means of access for future maintenance. *
>>
>>
>>
>> *In addition we have identified separate issues within the carpark which
>> we will outline within a brief cover letter for the Owners consideration
>> and action:*
>>
>>
>>
>> *1.* *The basement subsurface drainage system around the perimeter is
>> not draining effectively. The installation of the pipework in the dish
>> drains is restricting water flow into the subsurface drainage system. AJ
>> Whipps can also provide a scope of works to restore the operation of the
>> perimeter subsurface drains if requested by the Owners. *
>>
>>
>>
>> *2.* *The reclaim water tank from AVIS car wash bay appears to be
>> leaking and is currently being drained by means of a garden hose into the
>> lower level basement subsurface drainage system. This is permitting
>> additional uncontrolled water flow into the drainage system which needs to
>> be pumped out more frequently. We recommend that this defect is further
>> investigated as part of a new commission. *
>>
>>
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>> *Photos attached for your reference. *
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>> *Please feel free to contact me should you have any queries. *
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>> *Behrang Dehestani Remedial Engineer Forensic Analysis Remedial
>> Engineering AJ Whipps Consulting Group 2/101 Union Street McMahons Point,
>> NSW 2060 t 02 8923 8444 f 02 8923 8484 e bdehestani at ajwhipps.com.au
>> <bdehestani at ajwhipps.com.au%0b> www.ajwhipps.com.au
>> <http://ajwhipps.com.au/>*
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>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Patrick Rush
>>
>> Strata Manager
>>
>>
>>
>> Phone: (02) 9266 2600 | Email: prush at stratatitle.com.au | Address: PO
>> Box 2727, Taren Point, NSW 2229
>>
>>
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>> that may be for sale within your scheme. As such author discretion is
>> advised.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ec-bounces at 200william.com [mailto:ec-bounces at 200william.com
>> <ec-bounces at 200william.com>] On Behalf Of Matt Perkins
>> Sent: Tuesday, 14 March 2017 7:15 PM
>> To: ec at 200william.com
>> Subject: Re: [200William-EC SP67851] Basement flooding from Avis
>>
>>
>>
>> More investigation seems to indicate that this is overflow from Avis car
>> wash.
>>
>>
>>
>> May I suggest this need to be plumbed to the drain sump of the building
>> and and not dumped through a garden hose into the wet wall. This is likely
>> one of the reasons that he basement floods so often.
>>
>>
>>
>> Darren were the hydraulic engineers aware of this.
>>
>>
>>
>> Matt
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>> /* Matt Perkins
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>> Direct 1300 137 379 Spectrum Networks Ptd. Ltd.
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>> Office 1300 133 299 matt at spectrum.com.au
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>> Fax 1300 133 255 Level 6, 350 George Street Sydney 2000
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>> SIP 1300137379 at sip.spectrum.com.au
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>> Google Talk MattAPerkins at gmail.com
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>> > On 14 Mar 2017, at 6:42 pm, Matt Perkins <matt at spectrum.com.au> wrote:
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>> > Can someone explain to me why Avis are pumping water into the walls
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>> > with the over flow being a garden hose. It's now flooding the basement
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>> > Office 1300 133 299 matt at spectrum.com.au
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>> > Fax 1300 133 255 Level 6, 350 George Street Sydney 2000
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>> > SIP 1300137379 at sip.spectrum.com.au
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>> > Google Talk MattAPerkins at gmail.com
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