[200William-EC SP67851] SP 67851 - Engineers Report for Water Issues for Unit 601 & 602

Matt Perkins matt at spectrum.com.au
Tue Jul 5 10:33:59 AEST 2016


The last engineer's scope of work (which was wrong) cost us about $2k~  
.  I guess if we are going down that path again. We need to have a EC 
vote to decided if we should engage the engineer to prepare a scope of 
work to cut in a drain to fix the water pooling on P4

I think perhaps the whole job could cost lest then the preparing the 
scope of work. But then im an electrical engineer not a plumber.


Matt.


On 5/07/2016 10:16 AM, Patrick Rush wrote:
>
> Hi Matt & Committee,
>
>
> I would agree with Darren in having an Engineer prepare a scope of 
> work and then tendering for the work.
>
>
> This would mean that all the work completed can be checked off by the 
> Engineer and any issues with such work, can then be resolved by the 
> Engineer.
>
>
> I would feel more comfortable with an Engineer setting the scope of 
> work particularly if the cost is to be a major cost.
>
>
> This would be my advice to the Owners Corporation.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> *Patrick Rush*
>
> Strata Manager
>
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> *From:*Matt Perkins [mailto:matt at spectrum.com.au]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 5 July 2016 8:15 AM
> *To:* Marquis BFMS
> *Cc:* Patrick Rush; ec at 200william.com
> *Subject:* Re: SP 67851 - Engineers Report for Water Issues for Unit 
> 601 & 602
>
> Is it possible to get quotes first. We need to sort out if we can even 
> afford it before we start spending money on getting an engineer. The 
> scope of work does not seem that hard. Does it have to be completed by 
> an engineer. That will likely cost 1000's more
>
> Matt
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
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>
> On 5 Jul 2016, at 06:39, Marquis BFMS <marquis at bfms.com.au 
> <mailto:marquis at bfms.com.au>> wrote:
>
>     Hi Matt,
>
>
>
>     In order to install a drain in P4 to catch the pooling water in
>     602’s storage cage and car space 15 we will require approval from
>     an engineer to cut into the basement floor and install a 300mm
>     wide x 200mm deep drain running back to the drainage pit. We would
>     suggest approaching Wayne Costin from Strata Engineering Solutions
>     to assist with this matter.
>
>     Kind regards,
>
>
>
>     Darren Vignes
>
>     Building Manager
>
>     Marquis Apartments
>
>
>
>     Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>     On 4 Jul 2016, at 8:05 PM, Matt Perkins <matt at spectrum.com.au
>     <mailto:matt at spectrum.com.au>> wrote:
>
>         Hi Patrick,
>          Thanks for the clarification.  I have marked the direction of
>         water flow on the strata plan.
>
>         The water is flowing under the ramp in a line roughly adjacent
>         to the curved line between the ramp and the direction of water
>         flow.
>         The tank is located in the box as located by the Commercial
>         strata plan number. It's not the tank itself that causes the
>         water to flow that way but the design of the ramp Which is
>         setup in such a way which would not be needed if not for the
>         tank.
>
>         Im guessing the long and the sort of it is we are responsible
>         for cutting in the drain. Darren The key info I think we need
>         is the values of the quotes for the drain so we can decided if
>         we have the budget to pay for it's install or if a levy needs
>         to be raised.  if a levy needs to be raised. I think it would
>         be best to get the restorations to the water leak's from
>         level7 to 6 balcony's costs into the same EGM. So we only need
>         to call one EGM.
>
>         Darren what is your estimate for when you will have the quotes
>         available for the drain.
>
>         Matt
>
>
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>         On 4/07/2016 5:16 PM, Patrick Rush wrote:
>
>             Hi Matt & Fellow Committee Members,
>
>
>             Basement Level 4 is in fact the Owners SP 67851’s property
>             with easements as per the attached strata plan that allow
>             SP 67850 to use parts of the areas. There are no exclusive
>             use By Laws.
>
>
>             Depending on what the easements say and where the fuel
>             tank is located will determine who is responsible for the
>             repairs and maintenance.
>
>
>             It will not likely be the BMC but either the commercial or
>             residential strata that are required to undertake the repairs.
>
>             Darren, can you please mark on the attached strata plan
>             exactly where the fuel tank is located and I can then
>             review along with the easement and advise who is
>             responsible for the repair s and maintenance of the
>             leaking water if in fact this is coming from the fuel
>             tank. Can you also confirm if water is leaking from this
>             fuel tank and causing the pooling water in Basement Level 4?
>
>             Kind regards,
>
>             *Patrick Rush*
>
>             Strata Manager
>
>             Phone:(02) 9266 2600 | Email:prush at stratatitle.com.au
>             <mailto:prush at stratatitle.com.au> | Address:PO Box 2727,
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>             *From:*ec-bounces at 200william.com
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>             [mailto:ec-bounces at 200william.com] *On Behalf Of *Matt Perkins
>             *Sent:* Friday, 1 July 2016 6:17 PM
>             *To:* Ed Sainsbury
>             *Cc:* ec at 200william.com <mailto:ec at 200william.com>;
>             Marquis BFMS
>             *Subject:* Re: [200William-EC SP67851] SP 67851 -
>             Engineers Report for Water Issues for Unit 601 & 602
>
>             Sorry for my short reply before I was out and about and
>             didn't want to see someone exposing a 10,000l  fuel tank
>             with a metal crowbar.
>
>             The matter with the water in the carpark has been
>             determined by Darren and the contractors to be water from
>             the wet wall   Seeping along under where the ramp was
>             poured over the slab.  In essence it's bad building design.
>
>             Two solutions have been offered. Cutting a drain and / or
>             cleaning the wet wall Pitts and walls  in that area so
>             water can more easily drain to the sump.
>
>             The strata manager has determined that level p4 is
>             residential strata as there are no commercial lots there.
>             However as Avis maintain an exclusive use bylaw for the
>             fuel tank which is part of the commercial strata. Not only
>             is the tank located on level p4 but it's design is partly
>             responsible for the water under the ramp. Therefor I
>             believe the strata manager is in error.
>
>             I believe the water in the car park is a bmc issue and the
>             solution should be to cut in a drain to the sump. An
>             expense which should be born by the bmc.
>
>             I will ask the strata manager to put the question to the
>             bmc. I'm sure Andrews response will be to deny the request.
>
>             Where we go from there is uncertain. We could pay for it
>             ourselves with a special levy or we could perhaps find a
>             way to compel the bmc to fix the issue.
>
>             Darren is obtaining quotes for the fix.
>
>             -- 
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>             On 1 Jul 2016, at 4:50 PM, Ed Sainsbury
>             <edsainsbury at ozemail.com.au
>             <mailto:edsainsbury at ozemail.com.au>> wrote:
>
>                 Dear EC,
>
>                 I went up to Craig's apartment to have him show me the
>                 water issues, so I could better understand them. I can
>                 confirm that there is still water coming down behind
>                 the exterior paint from the roof area on the western
>                 and north-western sides. It is creating pockets of
>                 pooled water under the exterior paint.
>
>                 I was also shown the water polling in the basement. I
>                 am thinking that it might be coming from pumps or
>                 other, that are under the plates on the ramp down to
>                 P4. I was wondering if anyone k owe whether the strata
>                 has steel rods (like a crow bar) that are used to lift
>                 the concrete plates, so that we could look in to see
>                 if they are leaking.
>
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>                 Regards,
>
>                 Edward
>
>                 Sent from my iPhone
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>                 On 1 Jul 2016, at 12:51 PM, Robin Patrick
>                 <robin.j.patrick at gmail.com
>                 <mailto:robin.j.patrick at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>                     I agree to proceed with the recommendations.
>
>                     Thanks
>
>                     RJP
>
>                     On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 5:05 PM, Patrick Rush
>                     <prush at stratatitle.com.au
>                     <mailto:prush at stratatitle.com.au>> wrote:
>
>                     Dear Committee,
>
>
>                     Please see attached a copy of the report from
>                     Strata Engineering Solutions.
>
>                     Please review and if you agree with the
>                     recommendations on Page 2 & 3 I will request the
>                     Engineer to proceed?
>
>                     If agreed, I believe it may also be best to have
>                     Strata Engineering Solutions attend and inspect
>                     the pooling issue in the basement car park
>                     currently being experienced.
>
>                     Both these items will be at a charge, while the
>                     attached report was carried out at no charge.
>
>                     Please advise on Teh above?
>
>                     Kind regards,
>
>                     *Patrick Rush*
>
>                     Strata Manager
>
>                     Phone:(02) 9266 2600 |
>                     Email:prush at stratatitle.com.au
>                     <mailto:northshore at stratatitle.com.au> |
>                     Address:PO Box 2727, Taren Point, NSW 2229
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         Direct 1300 137 379        Spectrum Networks Ptd. Ltd.
         Office 1300 133 299        matt at spectrum.com.au
                                    Level 6, 350 George Street Sydney 2000
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