[200William-EC] FW: Server Problems

Matt Perkins matt at spectrum.com.au
Tue Oct 1 20:31:46 EST 2013 

Long term we need to come up with a solution here. It needs to be placed 
on record that we can not close the roof without a bylaw. Our strata 
laws state that common property can not be restricted without a bylaw.

It is also worth nothing that closing the roof, even with a deposit 
system will detract from the value of apartments without views.  People 
use the roof for a number of things. Not just partying. Some 
socializing, exercising, fresh air, Just getting out of the a small 
apartment, children playing,  what ever reason; people made investment 
decisions based on there being a common roof facility. I do not believe 
removing that access serves the greater good of the apartment owners 
within the building.

I also do not believe it would pass a vote at the AGM. 75% of the 
apartments within the building do not have a view. They are very 
unlikely to vote for there view being restricted.

I also think the point that we will be sued is not valid. We cant be 
sued for someone committing malicious damage. It's a criminal act. It's 
like saying your going to sue the RTA if you cross at a red light and 
get hit by a car.  As long as we do everything reasonable to prevent it 
a problem.

Dont get me wrong here. I know I wont make any friends by saying this.  
My own son was hurt by the glass. But our job here on the EC is to 
represent the interests of the owners. Not run our own little agenda's. 
. We are here to represent the building owners to preserve their 
investments. What we feel personally is irrelevant. It's also very 
unfair that a few trouble makes ruin what is a valuable resource.

A bylaw that drops the buildings value is only likely to see us voted 
out as EC members next AGM and will serve nothing.   There is no need 
for knee jerk reactions. Lets discuss it at the meeting next week and 
see if we can find a solution that people will accept.

Let's see if a solution can be found. We can all discuss it at next 
meeting.

Matt.




     On 1/10/13 7:05 PM, George Ziri wrote:
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> Notice will be placed up tomorrow and access to level 7 will be off.
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> *From:*ec-bounces at 200william.com [mailto:ec-bounces at 200william.com] 
> *On Behalf Of *Rob Willett
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 1 October 2013 7:01 PM
> *Cc:* ec at 200william.com
> *Subject:* Re: [200William-EC] FW: Server Problems
>
> Yes , I agree with Craig, I vote for the roof to be completely shut-off.
>
> "Closed for urgent Maintenance and repairs" will do it.
>
> On 01/10/2013, at 10:51 AM, "CSCL" <cscl at optusnet.com.au 
> <mailto:cscl at optusnet.com.au>> wrote:
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>
>
> At this late stage, I see a barrage of people (tenants......... and their
> guests...........and some of THEIR guests) coming into the building.  The
> security we have had in the past has not allayed the problems of liquor
> going up to level 7 and glasses, cans and bottles being dropped over the
> side.  I've lived through it each year.
>
> Based on this, I believe we should not open yet another problem on the 
> roof.
> Regards,
> Craig Laforest
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ec-bounces at 200william.com <mailto:ec-bounces at 200william.com> 
> [mailto:ec-bounces at 200william.com <mailto:bounces at 200william.com>] On 
> Behalf
> Of Brook Beves
> Sent: Tuesday, 1 October 2013 10:21 AM
> To: ec at 200william.com <mailto:ec at 200william.com>
> Subject: [200William-EC] FW: Server Problems
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brook Beves [mailto:brookbeves at bigpond.com 
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> Sent: Tuesday, 1 October 2013 10:02 AM
> To: 'Maxine Wickey'; 'Matt Perkins'
> Cc: 'ec at 200william.com <mailto:ec at 200william.com>'
> Subject: RE: [200William-EC] Server Problems
>
> As you are all aware, this coming weekend Sydney plays host to the Naval
> International Fleet Review.  Specifically on Saturday evening there is a
> Fireworks and Lightshow Spectacular on and around the harbour 
> including the
> harbour bridge and opera house.  This will occur for 30 minutes from 7.40
> pm.
> In this regard and in view of the recent malicious damage that was caused
> through bottles, glasses etc. having been thrown from level 7,  would 
> not it
> be prudent to engage a security guard to patrol the rooftop level 7 area
> this coming Saturday 5 October, from say 6.00 pm until 11.00 pm, or 
> until 30
> minutes after the last person or persons have left that area of the
> building. This is in keeping with the security arrangements on New Years
> eve.
>
> I put this proposal forward as a motion and I seek your responses.
>
> Regards, Brook
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Maxine Wickey [mailto:mwickey at stratatitle.com.au 
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> Sent: Monday, 30 September 2013 10:13 AM
> To: 'Matt Perkins'; Brook Beves
> Cc: ec at 200william.com <mailto:ec at 200william.com>
> Subject: RE: [200William-EC] Server Problems
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> Hi Matt,
>
> Thanks, yes that is the date I have booked in.
>
> Regards,
>
> Maxine Wickey
> Strata Manager
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: ec-bounces at 200william.com <mailto:ec-bounces at 200william.com> 
> [mailto:ec-bounces at 200william.com] On Behalf
> Of Matt Perkins
> Sent: Sunday, 29 September 2013 8:57 AM
> To: Brook Beves
> Cc: ec at 200william.com <mailto:ec at 200william.com>
> Subject: Re: [200William-EC] Server Problems
>
> My records indicate it's the 10th which is Thursday week. Maxine will send
> out an agenda in advance.
>
> Matt.
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>   On 29/09/13 8:20 AM, Brook Beves wrote:
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> Thanks Matt
>
> Can we confirm that there is an EC meeting this week as previously
> decided and has the agenda been prepared?
>
> Brook
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: ec-bounces at 200william.com <mailto:ec-bounces at 200william.com> 
> [mailto:ec-bounces at 200william.com] On
> Behalf Of Matt Perkins
> Sent: Sunday, 29 September 2013 8:16 AM
> To: ec at 200william.com <mailto:ec at 200william.com>
> Subject: [200William-EC] Server Problems
>
> Hi All,
>   There was a problem with the email server that does ec email's. It
> has been restored now.  If anyone has sent in the last 48 hours. Your
> email's should get through over the next hour or so. There should be
> no need to resend if you have not received a bounce message already.
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> Sorry for any inconvenience.
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> Matt.
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