[200William-EC] Car Park
Brook Beves
brookbeves at bigpond.com
Wed Nov 27 14:53:38 EST 2013
Sorry Matt but I agree with Rob on this one. The spaces are being used
illegally and locking them is the only solution. There is little likelihood
that an occupant acting illegally with the car spaces is going to run to a
lawyer, and in any event they wouldn't have an action.
I agree let's stop pussyfooting around and take some positive action. Rob,
I am quite happy to admit the supplier of those locks into the building for
a quote, just let me know who and when.
Brook
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Sent: Wednesday, 27 November 2013 1:41 PM
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Subject: [200William-EC] Car Park
We're are our rights? The car park is being used illegally. Let's stop it
and start charging for it.
OK, how do we do a bloody bi-law without farting around for months on bloody
end. Maxine, please assist in this. If they want to sue, they have no
grounds as we simply give them a key for a fee. I call that access.
By putting locks on the visitor spots does not restrict it. If a visitor
wants to park there, they simply have to ask for a key, for a fee. Simple.
Let's just do it. Like I said, we can fart around forever or just do it. It
will happen so quickly, no one will know the difference.
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On 27/11/2013, at 9:05 AM, Matt Perkins <matt at spectrum.com.au> wrote:
I wish it was all that easy Rob. You can not restrict access to visitor
parking without a bylaw. It requires and AGM/EGM. Locking people's car's is
not legal you will get arrested. You cant touch peoples car's (as much as
you want to ) The only remedy at our disposal is send a breach of bylaw
notice. That's it. I dont make the law. Maxine please confirm.
I will do some research and see if there is some sort of access control
system we can use for visitor parking. That requires peoples pass keys etc
to be used. In my experience this is very hard without a concierge. I dont
think we can just close it off or we will have people threatening to sue us
as we did with the roof access. I am also lucky to have Phillippa Russell
one of Sydney's top strata lawyers in the office downstairs from me. I will
see if I can solicit some free advise next time i bump into her in the lift.
As to long term visitor parking there may be counsel implications etc. Let's
investigate
Right now all that we can do within the law is act under the existing
bylaws.
Perhaps we should have a meeting soon. When are you back next rob. (or can
you skype in perhaps )
Matt.
On 27/11/13 2:17 PM, Rob Willett wrote:
Car park: OK, we're all in agreement, I think the first and easiest step to
stop illegal parking is to put those yellow bracket locks ( thats the best
description I could come up with ). We offer the spaces for lease. They get
a key to unlock their space. It's really simple although I am guessing in
Nanny State Australia there will be some rule or bi-law or bloody regulation
that says it's not easy.
Let's stop buggarising around with the narcissicist in 502. Send them a
warning notice immediately to stop parking there. If they don't, stick a
wheel lock on her car. Can someone do this? Let me have her details ands I
will GLADLY do it. Here she is renting a spot, the revenue should be coming
to us, not her. We have evidence of her parking there, thanks Phil and Di,
lets send her an invoice. Let's immediately install the brackets. Lets
immediately notify the residents that spaces are available for a weekly
monthly rental of $300 + GST, minimum 3 months, key deposit $200 + GST (
fully refundable ). We are not obliged to provide visitors spots. So don't.
If we just get on with it, it can happen so quickly no one will no the
difference.
I think I am saying let's actually do something. The time has come.
I will start by contacting a supplier to give us a cost for the brackets. As
I am not in Sydney, would it be possible for someone to allow access to the
contractor so they can see the spaces in order to quote on the job? I just
need 1 person who lives in the building. We can arrange a mutually agreeable
time. It will take 5 minutes.
Who issues invoices on behalf of the building? Is it Maxine, is it George? I
would be happy to do it. Just tell me what to do and I will issue the
invoice on behalf of the EC. I just need the woman's details and I will do
it right away. $75 per week ( cheap ) for 8 weeks + GST ( based on the
evidence we have )
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On 27/11/2013, at 7:30 AM, Brook Beves <brookbeves at bigpond.com> wrote:
Visitor Parking Spaces:
I am in total agreement to lease them out and derive income for the Body
corporate. Currently there is no way to police people using them as they
wish. As Matt says, there is already some selfish occupant within the
building who has rented out their car space and selfishly plonks their
vehicle in a visitors space without any regard for anyone else. Whilst
George goes to a lot of trouble taking photos and attaching notices to every
occupants door threatening action, the offenders just ignore/laugh at the
notice. This also goes for other selfish occupants who don't give a damn
and just park in the visitors spots for indefinite times. I too have had
occasion when a guest to my apartment cannot park their vehicle because of
the selfish actions/disregard by others.
Storage Cages:
I am in total agreement to Lease them out. They legally belong to the
Owners Corporation. Whilst I have raised this issue previously this problem
will not go away and it may well be that another owner, in the future or
whenever, will ask the same question as I, as to who owns them and how do
you get hold of one.
Rooftop Barbeque:
I agree that this needs to be more attractive and on a user pay basis. I
don't consider this a priority.
Rooftop Gymnasium:
Again I agree this needs to be made more attractive and on a user pay basis,
and perhaps placed on the EC agenda for follow up action.
IN SUMMARY:
I agree with Rob that the current levies for a building of this type is
totally over the top, and where there is areas to derive income for the body
corporate, then I am all in favour of pursuing those possibilities. As we
agreed at the last EC meeting the installation of the CCTV cameras to the
foyers on each floor is the only evidence the police can use to prosecute
criminal and malicious behaviour, as we have recently witnessed. I am
happy to support the best quote for this installation.
Brook
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I do feel that the 5 visitor parking places should remain just that (as part
of the appeal of the building, along with the roof access, etc) and we
should work out a way to ensure they remain for visitors' use with a 24hr
limit.
We just want to make sure we don"t have a repetition of the woman who bought
a house lower down Dowling St, then bought the 2 commercial spots, let the
vendor remain in one, parked herself in the visitors' and brought in tradies
each morning who were working on her house down to park in other visitors'
spots !!
Tradies working in the building are another matter, and I think they should
be tolerated.
In the next email I'll attach some evidence of the same car parked in the a
visitor's spot since the 16th Nov.
regards,
Di
On 27 November 2013 10:37, Dave Petschack < <mailto:dave at robadda.com>
dave at robadda.com> wrote:
Thanks to all for their thought and feedback - some great ideas.
I am particularly in favour of having a more managed approach to spare
parking spaces and I would be keen to let these out if possible. the income
would be very handy.
I agree about a fee for renting out the cages - should have done it years
ago - good idea Matt!
Re the gym - it has always been a white elephant, but perhaps we consider a
proper upgrade and a user pays. I think this would make people look after
the equipment and restrict access to those who appreciate a gym.
BBQ - area - i think the upgrade needs to be taken into consideration with
some of the other renovations before making a decision. This woul be a low
priority for me after security and foyer works.
Thanks again all, Maxine, would you please add these ideas to the agenda for
discussion as a group at next EC meeting.
Regards Dave
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On 26/11/2013, at 4:46 PM, Matt Perkins wrote:
Hi All,
This is a bit of a knock-on from Rob's last email where he questioned
costs of the upgrading of the building cameras. There seems a real
problem here as the owners want reduced strata costs however our
building is small and there is not that many lots to spread the cost
over. There is not a lot of breathing room in the budget and owners want
more facilities, Building upgrades and security features. We have
little way to recoup some of these cost's other then strata levies
however perhaps there are some options for us. It's of note that these
suggestions will almost certainly require a bylaw change in it self will
have an associated cost.
User Pays.
Brook recently brought up the idea of Cages that are on common property.
lets lease these to people rather then giving them away. They have real
value. It's not unreasnoable to ask $20 ~ $50 Per month for these in our
Sydney location. This could add up to a few thousand per year. I note
also that there are a few store rooms and other spaces throughout the
building that are utilized. I for one would be happy to rent one of
these. Let's put some figures on them and get them rented. It's money
for jam.
Gym - If we plan to fix/upgrade it. Perhaps we can charge people a
maintenance fee if they use it. If they dont want to pay for it lets
turn it into more storage space and save the P/L and Insurance. It's a
simple matter of putting a card reader on the Gym Door and activating it
on lots that pay only. It should at least cover the insurance and P/L
Visitor parking - This is constantly used as parking for tenants. Evey
time I have tried to get a visitor in there it's full of the usual
suspects. Perhaps some sort of user pay's system would work here. I have
no idea how but throwing it out there. At the very least a nominal fee
may stop people using it as additional car spaces. I know for a fact
that one tenant in the building is renting their space to an outside
person and using visitor parking for there own car.
The Roof - We have discussed user pays here before. My thoughts is it
would have little chance of making it through a AGM/EGM as it's to
attractive as a selling point for property in the building. But if
upgrades were to happen the BBQ should at least have a coin box.
Other property have done some of these measure nearby to great effect.
(Particularly storage).
Matt
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