[200William-EC] WILLIAM ST FACADE

Fri Mar 22 11:19:55 EST 2013

Hi All,

Following our EC meeting, and the visit to Shane's beautifully
refurbished apartment and then George's various messages outlining
work that is imperative (rather than elective) - seventh floor
membrane, William Street facade and undoubtedly more to come - I
cannot vote 'yes' to either of Shane's proposals to create 'hot'
lobbies on either G or E. I don't disapprove of them altogether but
can't see any justification for the expense.  I feel the introduction
of a look that is fashionable now, will just mean that it will be
dated by the end of the decade, and do we want to reinvent our foyers
every 7 years?  (Purple is just Retro Seventies not out-of-date
Noughties but you're all too young to know)

My inability to approve of these schemes is due not only to the
parlous state of our sinking fund, but also to the very elective
nature of these proposals (whom are we trying to impress? Surely the
interior of our apartments is what counts). What seems imperative to
me is the replacement of halogen with LED lights in the lobbies and
lifts (and this asap while still subsidised by the govt) and the
replacement of the carpet in E and G.

I know I've been banging on about a doormat, and have thought of a
better idea: there is a type of twisted nylon/plastic matting which is
thin and almost adhesive, so no danger of tripping. It would work well
inside the G entrance. It would not need to be recessed, it cleans
stuff off footwear more efficiently than coir and does not rot, and
could just be laid down and taken out and shaken by the cleaners
(hosed if necessary!). It would just need to be available in a
suitable colour such as charcoal.

How about polished concrete instead of carpet in the common areas of
the other levels? Too noisy? Too hard to achieve with people living
there whilst work is in progress? How hard is it Shane? The concrete's
there; how much do you need to add before polishing, and how long does
it take, etc.. Probably a dumb idea, but had to run it past you.. It
would look great as the lead-up to your front door... and easy to
clean.

Did any of you go to the BMC seminar/workshop in the City on Wednesday
night? I couldn't, so had to traipse all the way to Sylvania Waters
last night, but it was well worth it.

Cheers,

Di

On 22 March 2013 09:44, CSCL <cscl at optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> Pls cc us all on the communication regarding this matter.  I’m very
> interested to see how it proceeds George.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Craig Laforest
>
>
>
> From: ec-bounces at 200william.com [mailto:ec-bounces at 200william.com] On Behalf
> Of George Ziri
> Sent: Friday, 22 March 2013 9:23 AM
> To: ec at 200william.com
> Subject: Re: [200William-EC] WILLIAM ST FACADE
>
>
>
> Yes you are correct. I suppose I was keeping you informed.
>
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>
> I will deal with Rob on this matter.
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> From: CSCL [mailto:cscl at optusnet.com.au]
> Sent: Friday, 22 March 2013 9:16 AM
> To: George Ziri; ec at 200william.com
> Subject: RE: [200William-EC] WILLIAM ST FACADE
>
>
>
> Hi George,
>
> Am I missing something here? Perhaps.
>
> If the façade on William St falls under the BMC, why are we getting quotes
> to have the area repaired and paid for by the owners of Marquis?  Shouldn’t
> this be taken care of by Andrew Veron and his group?  Would you please
> clarify why we are up for any charges. Thank you.
>
> Regards,
> Craig Laforest
>
>
>
> From: ec-bounces at 200william.com [mailto:ec-bounces at 200william.com] On Behalf
> Of George Ziri
> Sent: Thursday, 21 March 2013 5:13 PM
> To: ec at 200william.com
> Subject: [200William-EC] WILLIAM ST FACADE
>
>
>
> Good Afternoon All,
>
>
>
> You may remember back in 2006 when the Dowling Street tiled facade was de
> bonding and tile pieces dropping on the street. The Dowling st facade was
> repaired and claimed under the Home Owners Warranty.  At the time the
> William Street facade was also showing signs of hollowness though still fit
> for purpose. Our attempt to also claim the William St facade was rejected
> the facade falls under the BMC which is not covered under the HOW.
>
>
>
> Today during my inspection I discovered a approximately 15% of the tiles
> extremely hollow and debonded from the surface. These can possibly fall.
>
>
>
> In order to remove the tiles there are two options:
>
>
>
> 1.       Set up a full scaffold with hording (Council requirements) which
> will cost approx 15-25k. If this method is to be carried out then:
>
> (a)     all the tiles should be removed as it would be a short time before
> the others will debond. Approx 15-25k
>
> (b)   once all the tiles are removed then the wall will need to be
> resurfaced with either cement then painted or acrylic render which comes in
> range of colours. Approx $30k
>
>
>
> 2.       Remove only the affected tiles during the early hours of the
> morning by ladder access. Possible risk caught by a ranger. And facade will
> look unsightly until such time the facade is repaired.
>
>
>
> Please note that this needs to be addressed asap.
>
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> ________________________________________________________
> George Ziri | Operations
>
>
>
> Building Facilities Management Solutions Pty Ltd
>
> Direct: 0400 300 242 | Facsimile: 9547 3132 | PO BOX A2319 SYDNEY SOUTH NSW
> 1235
>
>
>
> visit us www.bfms.com.au
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>
> From: ec-bounces at 200william.com [mailto:ec-bounces at 200william.com] On Behalf
> Of Matt Perkins
> Sent: Thursday, 21 March 2013 1:15 PM
> To: ec at 200william.com
> Subject: Re: [200William-EC] Propose Foyer & Lift upgrades
>
>
>
> Im a Yes to both pending final colour approval.
>
> Matt.
>
>  On 20/03/13 3:50 PM, Shane Ellis wrote:
>
> Hi All, after reviewing at last nights meeting, I have a revised Quote as
> per below.
>
> Can we get votes on each level perhaps. ie: if you could all reply, as
> follows:
>
>
>
> Upgrade Level E: Yes/No
>
> Upgrade Level G: Yes/No
>
>
>
> UPGRADE LEVEL E:
>
> *Paint to purple Mosaic columns outside = $400
>
> *Paint ceiling throughout Foyer = $1,150
>
> *Demolish & remove purple fabric = $150
>
> *Place arced framing, instead of existing angles at above wall = $1,250
>
> *Place full height tiles to above at removed fabric (28m2*$80/m2) = $2,240
>
> *Supply above high quality tiles (28m2*$80/m2) = $2,240
>
> TOTAL LEVEL E UPGRADE = $7,430+GST = $8,173
>
> *No allowance to replace light fittings
>
>
>
> UPGRADE LEVEL G:
>
> *Demolish and remove existing floor finishes = $1,900
>
> *Install new floor finishes (25m2*$80/m2) = $2,000
>
> *Supply above high quality finishes (25m2*$80/m2) = $2,000
>
> *Remove colonial skirtings & Architraves, and square-set wall finishes =
> $800
>
> *Repaint all of Foyer = $1,800
>
> *Less Insurance rebate (-$2,400)
>
> TOTAL LEVEL E UPGRADE = $6,100+GST = $6,710
>
>
>
>
>
> *Total for both Lobby areas = $15,423
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Best Regards
> Shane Ellis
> 0423 000 221
>
>
>
> On 19/03/2013, at 5:29 PM, Shane Ellis <shane at ellisconstructions.com.au>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> For discussion at Meeting, please find below indicative costs to upgrade
> finishes at Lifts and at Level E+G foyers.
>
> Costs are fully inclusive of all material supply, design fees, etc.
>
> I believe we should be able to tap the 'Sinking Fund' for the costs. The
> existing style is very dated.
>
>
>
> UPGRADE LEVEL E:
>
> *Paint to purple Mosaic columns outside = $400
>
> *Paint ceiling throughout Foyer = $1,150
>
> *Demolish & remove purple fabric = $150
>
> *Place arced framing, instead of existing angles at above wall = $1,250
>
> *Place full height tiles to above at removed fabric (28m2*$80/m2) = $2,240
>
> *Supply above high quality tiles (28m2*$80/m2) = $2,240
>
> TOTAL LEVEL E UPGRADE = $7,430+GST = $8,173
>
>
>
>
>
> UPGRADE LEVEL G:
>
> *Demolish and remove existing floor finishes = $1,900
>
> *Install new floor finishes (25m2*$80/m2) = $2,000
>
> *Supply above high quality finishes (25m2*$80/m2) = $2,000
>
> *Remove colonial skirtings & Architraves, and square-set wall finishes =
> $800
>
> *Repaint all of Foyer = $1,800
>
> TOTAL LEVEL E UPGRADE = $8,500+GST = $9,350
>
> *OPTION to frame Western foyer wall, add arced frame to corner, and tile
> extent of wall = $4,510 Inc Tile supply & GST.
>
> *OPTION to tile wall opposite to lift walls = $4,400
>
>
>
>
>
> UPGRADE ELEVATORS:
>
> *Remove 2 downlights and plug holes = $200*2 = $400
>
> *Rub back clear finish to timber panels = $950*2 = $1,900
>
> *Apply new stain to timber panels = $850*2 = $1,700
>
> TOTAL ELEVATORS UPGRADE = $4,000+GST = $4,450
>
>
>
> *Total for all 3 areas = $21,973
>
> *Total including Options for Level G tiled walls = $30,883
>
>
>
> These are pricing for my company to undertake the works.
>
> I believe that these are competitive costs, and that we will get alot of
> 'bang for our buck' - as we can get high quality finishes without the need
> to engage an architect or designer.
>
>
>
> re quality of work, below is a link to a recently completed project of mine.
> http://www.brettboardman.com/FoxJohnstonArchitects_QueensParkHouse_WEB/
>
>
>
>
>
> Best Regards
> Shane Ellis
> 0423 000 221
>
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