[200William-EC] User Pays - Cages
Matt Perkins
matt at spectrum.com.au
Tue Dec 3 17:31:46 EST 2013
Excellent. I hope to get this through without to much fuss.
Matt.
On 3/12/13 5:15 PM, Maxine Wickey wrote:
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> Hi Matt,
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> No a by-law can be drafted a lot cheaper than what you have been
> advised. I will obtain a quote and forward it to the EC.
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> *From:*ec-bounces at 200william.com [mailto:ec-bounces at 200william.com]
> *On Behalf Of *Matt Perkins
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 3 December 2013 4:46 PM
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> *Subject:* Re: [200William-EC] User Pays - Cages
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> Sorry mate I didnt mean to attack you. Defiantly not my intent. I
> would also not spend 1000's on lawers without permission. That's not
> what we are taking about. I have already picked up the phone to my own
> lawer on my own dime for advise here. He has some ideas to perhaps
> get it through with a license that may not require a bylaw.
>
> A bylaw will not be cheap. It's going to be a few thousand at least.
> Once I have more info I would be able to give an idea of when we would
> go cash flow positive on this project. This is going to be a lot of
> work. I was just told these lots will possibly need to be registered
> with the department of lands. His intital thoughts were that if there
> was another way to do it we should do it that way. I have sent over
> the strata plan for him to check what our options are again on my dime.
>
> The EC has born no costs to date regarding this but it's not
> unreasonable to expect there to be some costs. Set a cap if you think
> that is appropriate.
> Im sure there are little things that have not even thought of like
> what differences there are in insurance premiums etc.
>
> He said he knows of one building that created a whole strata scheme
> just for the storage cages. Obviously we would not go that far. But it
> gives you an idea of the scale of the task.
>
> The sorts of revenue we will be returning here would be in the range
> of about $55 per sq meter. So it's substantial revenue. I want to get
> this done and start marking revenue
>
> On 3/12/13 4:11 PM, Rob Willett wrote:
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> Hey Matt and EC,
>
> It's not up to me to give permission or not. It needs to be a
> vote. I am one of 9 ( Please don't attack me personally )
>
> Reading through the email trail of the past weeks we cannot afford
> to spend money on lawyers unless the committee approves and we can
> make cuts in other areas. No one wants to pay additional strata
> levies, in fact we want to get them down.
>
> Going through the EC is reality. As is evidenced by the vents of
> the past few weeks relating to Visitors spots. But in a spirit of
> goodwill personally I do and I will always abide by the decisions.
> So if it is good for one, it must apply to all.
>
> If we are going to spend money, any money, I think it needs to be
> decided by the EC. It's not unreasonable. Last time we hired
> lawyers, before your time, we had to get agreement on the costs.
> Which we did, this was for changing from Strata No Choice to STM.
>
> Spending other peoples money is not day to day.
>
> If we want to pursue this, can you please confirm with the EC know
> how much the lawyers fees will be and how long it will take?
>
> On 03/12/2013, at 10:19 AM, Matt Perkins <matt at spectrum.com.au
> <mailto:matt at spectrum.com.au>> wrote:
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>
>
> I assume that by giving your permission to investigate this I can
> reasonably engage Maxine and lawyers. I am experienced in giving
> lawyers good pre-draft work so that they spend as little time as
> possible drafting the laws. That is If i do the work for them
> there is less billable stuff they will need to do. Ultimately
> the bylaw will need an EC vote prior to drafting the final bylaw
> to be proposed at the AGM.
>
> Unless you want that to all go through the EC. If you do. Im not
> interested in the job. It will take to long. Will be best left to
> someone else. Im not accustomed to seeking permission to get
> tasks completed day to day. If you want it to all go through the
> EC. You have the wrong man. The job is to big to do by comity.
> This is the reason I stepped back from the Building upgrades
> group. The group had become to large to get anything done. There
> small group seems to be making progress which is a good thing.
>
> Matt.
>
> On 3/12/13 3:21 PM, Rob Willett wrote:
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> Thanks Matt, we'll wait your advice.
>
> Will there be any costs associated with the lawyers advice? If
> so, you will need some form of bureaucratic approval from the
> EC to spend our money before they give any advice. We will
> need to a quote and then a vote.
>
> Regards
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> On 03/12/2013, at 9:46 AM, Matt Perkins <matt at spectrum.com.au
> <mailto:matt at spectrum.com.au>> wrote:
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>
>
> I didnt. I dont really know because I dont know all the
> variables. Once I ask the lawyers I will have a better idea. I
> will work as quickly as I can and give updates along the way.
>
> Matt.
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> On 3/12/13 3:08 PM, Rob Willett wrote:
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> OK, thanks, so how long did you say?
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> On 03/12/2013, at 9:36 AM, Matt Perkins
> <matt at spectrum.com.au <mailto:matt at spectrum.com.au>> wrote:
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>
> It will require a vote at an EGM/AGM So once the legals
> are done either a meeting will need to be scheduled or we
> will need to wait to the AGM. You are building a leasing
> framework here. It's not a 5 second job. The cages are not
> even on the plans. I will need to find out but I would say
> it will need to be surveyed so the net letable area can be
> defined etc. Leases need to be drawn up etc. Once I get a
> go ahead from the majority I can move forward. I can get
> things done fast If i dont have 8 other people putting
> there 2c in. Plan is to get it all organized present it
> and then have 1 vote then setup and AGM/EGM.
>
> I know the law is frustrating you. But I cant disregard
> the facts. If we do not operate within the law. We leave
> our selves personalty open to prosecution for liable or
> negligence just as the officers of any company would be.
>
> Matt.
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> On 3/12/13 2:55 PM, Rob Willett wrote:
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> Hey Matt
>
> How long do you expect this will take? It's just that
> until we deal with the bureaucrats and get someone
> else not involved in the building to actually make a
> decision we cannot do the CCTV system as we don't have
> the budget allocated. It will be funded from the cages
> and the Visitor parking. As we all agreed a few weeks
> ago. It would be good to know how long approximately.
> We're already at 8 weeks this Thursday since the
> decision was made to look into it.
>
> On 03/12/2013, at 9:14 AM, Rob Willett
> <rob at robadda.com <mailto:rob at robadda.com>> wrote:
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> Over to you Matt.
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> On 03/12/2013, at 6:36 AM, Matt Perkins
> <matt at spectrum.com.au <mailto:matt at spectrum.com.au>>
> wrote:
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>
>
> Hi All,
> Regarding the leasing of storage cages. I think we
> all agree that this
> is a good idea. I would like to volunteer to sort out
> this process. It
> will be quite in depth and will require legals
> perhaps surveying and a
> whole host of complex issues. I believe these issues
> could be quickly
> sorted out between Maxine Myself and the Solicitor.
> Offline and then the
> final Bylaw brought back to the EC to be proposed for
> an EGM/AGM.
>
> The process would be as follows.
> Me and Maxine sort out general requirements
> (commercial terms)
> Send to solicitor to draft bylaw and lease.
> Bylaw voted on by EC to be proposed to an AGM/EGM
> Bylaw voted on by all owners at an AGM/EGM
> Start leasing out the cases.
>
> There is likely to be quite a bit of back and forth
> with the solicitors
> and if we dont do this succinctly and efficiently
> it's liable to cost
> us a bit of money. I believe Maxine and I can handle
> it in short order
> and at least cost.
>
> With your permission I would like to proceeded over
> the following weeks.
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