[200William-EC] User Pays - Cages
Diana Dennison
didee.cd at gmail.com
Tue Dec 3 16:30:39 EST 2013
I quite understand, Matt. As these cages have never been allotted or given
any designation other than being locked common property, or company
property, couldn't the EC decide to give them a purpose, sans lawyers? At
the moment, they are no one's and anyone's.
Alas, I expect the following reply: 'I wish life were that simple.'
Di
On 3 December 2013 16:11, Rob Willett <rob at robadda.com> wrote:
> Hey Matt and EC,
>
> It's not up to me to give permission or not. It needs to be a vote. I am
> one of 9 ( Please don't attack me personally )
>
> Reading through the email trail of the past weeks we cannot afford to
> spend money on lawyers unless the committee approves and we can make cuts
> in other areas. No one wants to pay additional strata levies, in fact we
> want to get them down.
>
> Going through the EC is reality. As is evidenced by the vents of the past
> few weeks relating to Visitors spots. But in a spirit of goodwill
> personally I do and I will always abide by the decisions. So if it is good
> for one, it must apply to all.
>
> If we are going to spend money, any money, I think it needs to be decided
> by the EC. It's not unreasonable. Last time we hired lawyers, before your
> time, we had to get agreement on the costs. Which we did, this was for
> changing from Strata No Choice to STM.
>
> Spending other peoples money is not day to day.
>
> If we want to pursue this, can you please confirm with the EC know how
> much the lawyers fees will be and how long it will take?
>
>
>
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> On 03/12/2013, at 10:19 AM, Matt Perkins <matt at spectrum.com.au> wrote:
>
> I assume that by giving your permission to investigate this I can
> reasonably engage Maxine and lawyers. I am experienced in giving lawyers
> good pre-draft work so that they spend as little time as possible drafting
> the laws. That is If i do the work for them there is less billable stuff
> they will need to do. Ultimately the bylaw will need an EC vote prior to
> drafting the final bylaw to be proposed at the AGM.
>
> Unless you want that to all go through the EC. If you do. Im not
> interested in the job. It will take to long. Will be best left to someone
> else. Im not accustomed to seeking permission to get tasks completed day
> to day. If you want it to all go through the EC. You have the wrong man.
> The job is to big to do by comity. This is the reason I stepped back from
> the Building upgrades group. The group had become to large to get anything
> done. There small group seems to be making progress which is a good thing.
>
> Matt.
>
> On 3/12/13 3:21 PM, Rob Willett wrote:
>
>
> Thanks Matt, we'll wait your advice.
>
> Will there be any costs associated with the lawyers advice? If so, you
> will need some form of bureaucratic approval from the EC to spend our money
> before they give any advice. We will need to a quote and then a vote.
>
> Regards
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> On 03/12/2013, at 9:46 AM, Matt Perkins <matt at spectrum.com.au> wrote:
>
> I didnt. I dont really know because I dont know all the variables. Once
> I ask the lawyers I will have a better idea. I will work as quickly as I
> can and give updates along the way.
>
> Matt.
>
>
>
> On 3/12/13 3:08 PM, Rob Willett wrote:
>
> OK, thanks, so how long did you say?
>
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> On 03/12/2013, at 9:36 AM, Matt Perkins <matt at spectrum.com.au> wrote:
>
> It will require a vote at an EGM/AGM So once the legals are done either
> a meeting will need to be scheduled or we will need to wait to the AGM. You
> are building a leasing framework here. It's not a 5 second job. The cages
> are not even on the plans. I will need to find out but I would say it will
> need to be surveyed so the net letable area can be defined etc. Leases need
> to be drawn up etc. Once I get a go ahead from the majority I can move
> forward. I can get things done fast If i dont have 8 other people putting
> there 2c in. Plan is to get it all organized present it and then have 1
> vote then setup and AGM/EGM.
>
> I know the law is frustrating you. But I cant disregard the facts. If we
> do not operate within the law. We leave our selves personalty open to
> prosecution for liable or negligence just as the officers of any company
> would be.
>
> Matt.
>
>
>
> On 3/12/13 2:55 PM, Rob Willett wrote:
>
>
> Hey Matt
>
> How long do you expect this will take? It's just that until we deal with
> the bureaucrats and get someone else not involved in the building to
> actually make a decision we cannot do the CCTV system as we don't have the
> budget allocated. It will be funded from the cages and the Visitor parking.
> As we all agreed a few weeks ago. It would be good to know how long
> approximately. We're already at 8 weeks this Thursday since the decision
> was made to look into it.
>
>
>
> On 03/12/2013, at 9:14 AM, Rob Willett <rob at robadda.com> wrote:
>
> Over to you Matt.
>
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> On 03/12/2013, at 6:36 AM, Matt Perkins <matt at spectrum.com.au> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
> Regarding the leasing of storage cages. I think we all agree that this
> is a good idea. I would like to volunteer to sort out this process. It
> will be quite in depth and will require legals perhaps surveying and a
> whole host of complex issues. I believe these issues could be quickly
> sorted out between Maxine Myself and the Solicitor. Offline and then the
> final Bylaw brought back to the EC to be proposed for an EGM/AGM.
>
> The process would be as follows.
> Me and Maxine sort out general requirements (commercial terms)
> Send to solicitor to draft bylaw and lease.
> Bylaw voted on by EC to be proposed to an AGM/EGM
> Bylaw voted on by all owners at an AGM/EGM
> Start leasing out the cases.
>
> There is likely to be quite a bit of back and forth with the solicitors
> and if we dont do this succinctly and efficiently it's liable to cost
> us a bit of money. I believe Maxine and I can handle it in short order
> and at least cost.
>
> With your permission I would like to proceeded over the following weeks.
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