[200William-EC] User Pays - Carges

Matt Perkins matt at spectrum.com.au
Tue Dec 3 15:49:08 EST 2013


I assume that by giving your permission to investigate this I can 
reasonably engage Maxine and lawyers. I am experienced in giving lawyers 
good pre-draft work so that they spend as little time as possible 
drafting the laws. That is If i do the work for them there is less 
billable stuff they will need to do.   Ultimately  the bylaw will need 
an EC vote prior to drafting the final bylaw to be proposed at the AGM.

Unless you want that to all go through the EC. If you do. Im not 
interested in the job. It will take to long. Will be best left to 
someone else. Im not accustomed to seeking permission to  get tasks 
completed day to day. If you want it to all go through the EC. You have 
the wrong man.  The job is to big to do by comity. This is the reason I 
stepped back from the Building upgrades group. The group had become to 
large to get anything done. There small group seems to be making 
progress which is a good thing.

Matt.

  On 3/12/13 3:21 PM, Rob Willett wrote:
>
> Thanks Matt, we'll wait your advice.
>
> Will there be any costs associated with the lawyers advice? If so, you 
> will need some form of bureaucratic approval from the EC to spend our 
> money before they give any advice. We will need to a quote and then a 
> vote.
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> On 03/12/2013, at 9:46 AM, Matt Perkins <matt at spectrum.com.au 
> <mailto:matt at spectrum.com.au>> wrote:
>
>> I didnt. I dont really know because I dont know all the variables. 
>> Once I ask the lawyers I will have a better idea. I will work as 
>> quickly as I can and give updates along the way.
>>
>> Matt.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3/12/13 3:08 PM, Rob Willett wrote:
>>> OK, thanks, so how long did you say?
>>>
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>>> On 03/12/2013, at 9:36 AM, Matt Perkins <matt at spectrum.com.au 
>>> <mailto:matt at spectrum.com.au>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It will require a vote at an EGM/AGM So once the legals are done 
>>>> either a meeting will need to be scheduled or we will need to wait 
>>>> to the AGM. You are building a leasing framework here. It's not a 5 
>>>> second job. The cages are not even on the plans. I will need to 
>>>> find out but I would say it will need to be surveyed so the net 
>>>> letable area can be defined etc. Leases need to be drawn up etc.  
>>>> Once I get a go ahead from the majority I can move forward. I can 
>>>> get things done fast If i dont have 8 other people putting there 2c 
>>>> in. Plan is to get it all organized present it and then have 1 vote 
>>>> then setup  and AGM/EGM.
>>>>
>>>> I know the law is frustrating  you. But I cant disregard the 
>>>> facts.  If we do not operate within the law. We leave our selves 
>>>> personalty open to prosecution for liable or negligence just as the 
>>>> officers of any company would be.
>>>>
>>>> Matt.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   On 3/12/13 2:55 PM, Rob Willett wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey Matt
>>>>>
>>>>> How long do you expect this will take? It's just that until we 
>>>>> deal with the bureaucrats and get someone else not involved in the 
>>>>> building to actually make a decision we cannot do the CCTV system 
>>>>> as we don't have the budget allocated. It will be funded from the 
>>>>> cages and the Visitor parking. As we all agreed a few weeks ago. 
>>>>> It would be good to know how long approximately. We're already at 
>>>>> 8 weeks this Thursday since the decision was made to look into it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 03/12/2013, at 9:14 AM, Rob Willett <rob at robadda.com 
>>>>> <mailto:rob at robadda.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Over to you Matt.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> On 03/12/2013, at 6:36 AM, Matt Perkins <matt at spectrum.com.au 
>>>>>> <mailto:matt at spectrum.com.au>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>  Regarding the leasing of storage cages. I think we all agree 
>>>>>>> that this
>>>>>>> is a good idea. I would like to volunteer to sort out this 
>>>>>>> process. It
>>>>>>> will be quite in depth and will require legals  perhaps 
>>>>>>> surveying and a
>>>>>>> whole host of complex issues. I believe these issues could be 
>>>>>>> quickly
>>>>>>> sorted out between Maxine Myself and the Solicitor. Offline and 
>>>>>>> then the
>>>>>>> final Bylaw brought back to the EC to be proposed for an EGM/AGM.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The process would be as follows.
>>>>>>> Me and Maxine sort out general requirements (commercial terms)
>>>>>>> Send to solicitor to draft bylaw and lease.
>>>>>>> Bylaw voted on by EC to be proposed to an AGM/EGM
>>>>>>> Bylaw voted on by all owners at an AGM/EGM
>>>>>>> Start leasing out the cases.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is likely to be quite a bit of back and forth with the 
>>>>>>> solicitors
>>>>>>> and if we dont do this succinctly and  efficiently it's liable 
>>>>>>> to cost
>>>>>>> us a bit of money. I believe Maxine and I can handle it in short 
>>>>>>> order
>>>>>>> and at least cost.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With your permission I would like to proceeded over the 
>>>>>>> following weeks.
>>>>>>>
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         Office 1300 133 299     matt at spectrum.com.au
         Fax    1300 133 255     Level 6, 350 George Street Sydney 2000
         SIP 1300137379 at sip.spectrum.com.au
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