[200William-EC] Parking Problems - WAS Quotation: 200 William Street, Woolloomooloo - Parking Locks

Matt Perkins matt at spectrum.com.au
Tue Dec 3 10:04:00 EST 2013


Hi All,
  I know this email is long but please If I can have your attention to 
the end we may be able to make some progress. Our EC roll is important 
and If you can not take the time to read and understand some of these 
email's I respectively suggest that the EC is not for you.

I have received advise from a solicitor very knowledgeable in strata 
area regarding this plan. I have also examined the original DA for 200 
William and the proposed plan can not go ahead.

The DA states that there are 5 spots for visitors. This can not be 
changed without council approval. Unlikely to be granted.  These spots 
must remain freeley available for visitors. The way I understand it paid 
parking  is not really an option we could grant licensees but it would 
require a very complex change to bylaws and would likely fail an 
AGM/EGM/Council. It would only cost us money.

We could secure the visitors spots providing we had someone available 
24/7 to come and open them however this seems unrealistic. We can not 
ask some one to book them 24 hours in advance because this does not fit 
the description of freely available. We have no concierge we can not 
operate the building like we do.

Given these restrictions I can not see how we can go ahead with any of 
these options lawfully.  I have however come up with an alternate plan. 
It will not allow user pays, however I believe it will fix the parking 
problems or at least find it much easier to identify offenders and issue 
them with breaches.

I do not have any costings and have no idea of the numbers. I did not 
want to waste time on it if the EC are not interested in it.

There is a product called a Cable Gate. It's effectively a thick 
stainless steel cable  securely locked between two steel posts position 
at either side of the parking bay which provide an effective physical 
barrier. A motor housed inside one of the posts drives down a latch 
releasing  the cable to lay flat on the ground so a vehicle can pass 
over the top.  Once the vehicle parks the cable is automaticly drawn 
back up and locked again inside the post re-securing the parking bays.

The Cable gate would be operated by our normal card swipe which we use 
for access to the building. So It would require a resident to come down 
and allow a visitor into the spot. They would also be required to swipe 
again to release there car from the spot. Logs generated from the 
building access control system could then be used to enforce 24 hour 
restrictions with a clear indication of who let the visitor in and out 
of the spot and how long they stayed. This could be used as evidence in 
any bylaw breech. Appropriate sign's could be affixed to the swipe and 
gates that explained the restrictions and that they are electronically 
monitored.




I know this has been a long and complex email and I hope your all still 
with me. This solution may not be within our budget but I do believe it 
to be our best chance to keep parking fair without a concierge.  If the 
EC thinks this idea may be viable I will assist George in providing a 
specification to be quoted.


Kind Regards.

Matt.

  http://www.cablegate.com.au/cg4.html



On 3/12/13 12:08 AM, Rob Willett wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Just reiterating, no one is closing off visitors spots, we are just 
> securing them to make visitors, guests, tradespeople accountable 
> following numerous complaints, especially from the EC, over the past 
> months and indeed, years. As discussed. So it can either be done, or 
> not. It's not personal. I don't really care.
>
> The other reason for wanting to secure them is to stop transients from 
> entering the car park ( has been a major complaint over the past 3 
> years, especially from EC members )  ) and to stop tenants sub-letting 
> their spots and using the visitors spots.
>
> But the major reason is to fund the cctv system. We don't have a 
> budget for it and if we want to do it, we should raise the revenue 
> from the buildings available resources.
>
> *Please folks: Forget any nasty and personal comments against me 
> please.* I don't need it or want it. Simply give us a Yes or a No. If 
> you vote yes, the preferred option. A B C. If you vote no, great. But 
> don't take your misguided anger out on me.
>
> Majority will decide. Thanks for the feedback to date folks, but keep 
> it positive.
>
> So far we Have:
>
>
> Matt TBA
> RowanTBA
> RobYes
> DiNo
> BrookTBA
> AndrewTBA
> CraigNo
> DaveTBA
> BarnayTBA
>
>
>
>
> *IN SRI LANKA / CELL PHONE +94 766 88 92 98*
> *5.5 HOURS BEHIND SYDNEY / 10.5 HOURS AHEAD NEW YORK*
> *
> *
>
>
> On 02/12/2013, at 5:33 PM, CSCL <cscl at optusnet.com.au 
> <mailto:cscl at optusnet.com.au>> wrote:
>
>> Ridiculous to close off the visitor spots.  They are for visitors!!
>> We don't have an onsite manager.  Who would monitor the yellow 
>> triangles?  Rob -- are you available to pop down each time?
>> My vote is a definite NO.
>> Cages -- a good idea for revenue.
>> Regards,
>> Craig Laforest
>> *From:*ec-bounces at 200william.com 
>> <mailto:ec-bounces at 200william.com>[mailto:ec-bounces at 200william.com 
>> <mailto:bounces at 200william.com>]*On Behalf Of*Diana Dennison
>> *Sent:*Monday, 2 December 2013 9:22 PM
>> *To:*Rob Willett; ec at 200william.com <mailto:ec at 200william.com>; Matt 
>> Perkins
>> *Subject:*Re: [200William-EC] Quotation: 200 William Street, 
>> Woolloomooloo - Parking Locks
>> Hi Rob,
>> Before we think of installing these things, have we considered the 
>> cost of administering 'charged visitor's parking'? And who would do 
>> it? Is it remotely worth it? Some visitors come for an hour, some 
>> come for the night. What's the plan?
>> I am sorry I can't keep it to a NO.
>> Rob, I am a NO until the above issues have been resolved; you don't 
>> just bung in yellow triangles without a plan. We're surely not 
>> planning to rent a space on an overnight basis? We'll end up with 
>> locked empty spaces during the day waiting for the booked car to 
>> arrive and nowhere for the one-hour visitor to park. Madness. My last 
>> 2 visitors managed to park.
>> Please outline a sensible plan of action before going further. The 
>> cages are another matter and good to go.
>> Why has no one asked the owner of the Peugeot to move it? I've just 
>> gone downstairs and rung #502's bell but although someone answered, I 
>> couldn't hear them or they couldn't hear em, so I'll leave a note 
>> asking Junior to give me a ring and I'll ask him to get the car moved.
>> best to all,
>> Di
>>
>> On 2 December 2013 19:26, Rob Willett <rob at robadda.com 
>> <mailto:rob at robadda.com>> wrote:
>> Hi there,
>> Following Friday's discussion re the Visitor parking, I have obtained 
>> a quotation for 3 variations. Can you all please review and let me know
>> 1) You confirm that we go ahead with the installation
>> 2) If you approve of the cost for A) $1140 B) $ 1760 of C) $2420
>> Can we please keep the responses short and sharp.
>> *FYI, I am a YES and B) $1760*
>> *Thanks Brook for being there to allow access for the tradesmen on 
>> Friday*, much appreciated. If we can get your responses quickly we 
>> can get this underway and start work almost immediately.
>> We can then start deciding the spare cages and how to lease them and 
>> the amount we can charge. With the revenue streams for the cages and 
>> the Visitor car spots will fund the security system and have no need 
>> to increase levies.
>>
>>
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>> <tel:%2B94%20766%2088%2092%2098>*
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