[200William-EC] LONG RANGE READER TO GARAGE DOOR

Matt Perkins matt at spectrum.com.au
Tue Aug 20 07:34:48 EST 2013 

I'm assuming then the wiegand model not the stand alone model is the one quoted. it's not specified on the quote. Thats an advantage. People may however store them in their car which is not ideal. 


Matt



On 20/08/2013, at 6:49 AM, "George Ziri" <Georgeziri at bfms.com.au> wrote:

> Good Moring Matt,
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> The second option allows the user to be tracked, just like your current air key.
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> The original system with the dip switches does not allow a user to be tracked. In 2005 the system was made redundant due this is flaw.
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> From: ec-bounces at 200william.com [mailto:ec-bounces at 200william.com] On Behalf Of Matt Perkins
> Sent: Monday, 19 August 2013 10:01 PM
> To: ec at 200william.com
> Subject: Re: [200William-EC] LONG RANGE READER TO GARAGE DOOR
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> Hi Guys,
>  I dont think you have understood this quote at all. The Second option is not proximity transponder type where you drive close to the sensor and it just open's This is simply a remote control. With an open button. In fact it's a cludge there is a differnt open button depending on if you are inside or outside the building. The Door controller already has this ability. Just go buy yourself a remote and set the 11 switches on the back to the correct code and you are working. The remotes are worth about $50 from jaycar. Nothing else to do. 
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> As George stated in an earlier email this method was disconnected (by making the code unknown) and the readers installed so logs are made of entry/exit. The Airkey system is slightly more secure as it has rolling code but in other ways. Lost remotes logging etc I think it's the same. Im not sure there is enough benefit. The problem with all these systems is people usually leave remotes in the car. In the Proxy point II tag system the transponder is affixed to the car (like toll readers) again a stolen car can just drive out the door. 
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> This stuff does not magically work from your wallet or key chain.  The way I see it there area two choices. 
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> Just make the code known so people can go buy $50 Elma remote and use it. Cost to strata $0. Change the code every 12 months for safety. 
> Do nothing and keep a higher level of security. Cost to strata $0. 
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> Matt.
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> On 19/08/13 8:16 PM, CSCL wrote:
> Bingo!  Good news George.
> And does this mean the same for exiting the building George?  That exit arm is a nightmare to have to coordinate sometimes when trying to scan while sitting behind the wheel of the car!!
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> From: ec-bounces at 200william.com [mailto:ec-bounces at 200william.com] On Behalf Of George Ziri
> Sent: Monday, 19 August 2013 7:52 PM
> To: ec at 200william.com
> Subject: Re: [200William-EC] LONG RANGE READER TO GARAGE DOOR
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> Yes.
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> From: ec-bounces at 200william.com [mailto:ec-bounces at 200william.com] On Behalf Of Rob Willett
> Sent: Monday, 19 August 2013 7:46 PM
> To: ec at 200william.com
> Subject: Re: [200William-EC] LONG RANGE READER TO GARAGE DOOR
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> Hi All
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> First, thanks George for sending through the details. 
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> Obviously the lower cost from $4150 + GST is more appealing. However, from a technical and adequacy perspective does it do the job of not requiring people to lean out their widows and swipe? 
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> Thanks 
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> ROB
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> On 19/08/2013, at 3:57 PM, George Ziri <Georgeziri at bfms.com.au> wrote:
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> Hi Rob,
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> Brief summary for the attached quotes...
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> BC Security
> The long range proximity readers ( in & out ) and vehicle tag system with ( 50 tags ) cost $9,644 gst included
> Or
> Remote control which can be monitored through the existing security system - Elid access system for $6,895 gst included
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> Tesnik
> The long range proximity reader (in & out) and vechile tag system with 50 tags $8294.00 inc gst
> Or
> Remote control which can be monitored through the existing security system $4,576.00 inc GST.
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> From: ec-bounces at 200william.com [mailto:ec-bounces at 200william.com] On Behalf Of Rob Willett
> Sent: Monday, 19 August 2013 9:31 AM
> To: ec at 200william.com
> Subject: [200William-EC] LONG RANGE READER TO GARAGE DOOR
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> Hi George, 
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> Thanks for this, can you let me know if we received competitive quotes/ If so, would it be possible we can see them. It's  a LOT of money at present for a non-essential item, so I would be voting no at this stage
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> Many thanks 
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> On 19/08/2013, at 6:47 AM, "CSCL" <cscl at optusnet.com.au> wrote:
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> A definite YES from me.
> As discussed at the AGM, not only does this new system provide safety for the driver behind the wheel (you don’t have to roll your window down or open your locked door), but it saves one from having to stretch out the window to scan the card.  Several times the garage entry area is used by people urinating or by homeless people and it is becoming a safety hazard to have to open the garage door from the car, in the current manner.
> Regards,
> Craig Laforest
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> From: ec-bounces at 200william.com [mailto:ec-bounces at 200william.com] On Behalf Of George Ziri
> Sent: Monday, 19 August 2013 8:40 AM
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> Subject: [200William-EC] MARQUIS - LONG RANGE READER TO GARAGE DOOR
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> Good Morning All,
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> From the minutes of the AGM we have been asked to obtain a quote for a long range reader to be installed to the garage door.
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> The price range is approximately $9000.
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> You may recall back in 2005, the hand held remote control to the garage door was made redundant and replaced with the FOB (grey air key). This was introduced to allow for all users to be monitored. It has worked well since.
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> The hand held remote control system can be reactivated if you wish.
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> Please provide me with a yes or no to follow through.
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