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<div dir="auto">Hi Craig,<br />
Im still waiting I think with all the issues this week Greg has been busy. Im sure it didnt cost us $3600 last time. Only issue we may have is if the plumbers report is not detailed enough to satisfy the engineers. So I would perhaps say that the $2k bit might need to be the plumber but the $1600 report part might still need to be done by the engineers. In any case there's nothing stopping us agreeing to the rest as we are only agreeing as far as I will then have to go and see if Arnold Agrees. It's a BMC matter so im just seeking everyone's approval before going ahead. Given high price and commitment. <br />
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I mentioned in one of my emails that because of the relationship we have with the plumber he could possibly provide a better rate, particularly if it ends up being more than one balcony. Matt P – did you hear back from Dave on a rate?</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I think we should go ahead with the proposed exceptions. <br />
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Plumber to do tank testing/report. <br />
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Note that the contract includes copyright clauses essentially locking us into using them to manage the tender process. (I'm okay with that but noteworthy.) <br />
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Check if BFMS can site manage as they will likely be cheaper than the engineer. (Allowed by the contract.)<br />
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Talk to engineer about prioritising at least removal of cladding as council may require a sharper timeline then we are proposing. </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 2 Feb 2024 at 9:02 AM +1100, Paul Mooney <<a href="mailto:paulmooney@manxpm.com.au">paulmooney@manxpm.com.au</a>>, wrote:<br />
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<p class="MsoNormal">Should we meet today for a half hour to hour this afternoon As a matter of urgency to go through report and agree to proceed?</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>I’m happy to proceed with the quotes - we are still waiting on the flood testing on balcony quotes to come in cheaper as all agreed too expensive.</p>
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I note that some time has passed since I posted the building report and if we want to continue to the next step and allow them to proceed with setting up the specification.<br />
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We are still waiting for additional tank testing quotes, but aside from that, please indicate if you want to go ahead with the rest of the quote for the spec. You should also be aware that an order has been made by the council to replace the cladding due to what looks like a mistake by STM (yet to be confirmed, but Sarah is working on it). So in any case, we will need to replace at least the cladding even if the other work is not done.<br />
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<p class="MsoNormal">I have spoken to two other contractors who work on properties I own and they have used the words 'concrete cancer' on our building, after viewing the exposed steel. The engineer's report was also supposed to have a response to the cladding by taking a sample of the wall panel used for our walls but that didn't happen. Sarah, would you please check with the contractor how he missed that. Thank you.</p>
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The engineer did not mention concrete cancer in their report. Although they mentioned spalling, they referred to the steel angle which is on the edges of the render. That's hardly concrete cancer. Let's not over-dramatise this. It's mostly cosmetic; there's no evidence of the structure of the building being compromised. There is no exposed steel reinforcement in the slabs, which is what most people call concrete cancer. It's worth noting that these emails form part of the strata record and directly affect the prices in the building. It's up to us as EC members to take a cool head and not adversely affect peoples' apartment values. Throwing words like concrete cancer around does little other than lower our property values. Paul sent an email recently outlining this, but it seems to have fallen on deaf ears.<br />
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We are all aware of the problems with the render; that is why we agreed to get the report. We have all agreed on the next steps. We all want a resolution as quickly as possible. I'm not sure what the point of your email is other than to be vexatious.<br />
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We are all working together here for a resolution. I would appreciate you working with us on this one and not damaging the property values any further by throwing around unnecessary emotive descriptions.<br />
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<p class="MsoNormal">As you may be aware, concrete is a porous material and when used for construction, reinforcing steel is inserted to bolster its strength. Since concrete is porous, it can absorb water and salt air very easily, which corrodes the steel inside. This process is what gives a structure concrete cancer. When water is absorbed through the concrete, along with salt air (which the report mentioned), the result is concrete cancer. When the cancer appears, it's because the steel inside the concrete, expands. When it expands, it cracks the concrete. I have it in numerous areas on my deck and on the window ledges. Rusting steel angles are considered concrete cancer. We do not have render inside the concrete. We have steel, which is exposed in many places.</p>
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No I have requested a quote to create a scope of work. Once we agree to that quote a scope and technical specifications can be created. We can then use those specifications to put the work out to tender and then we can have a GM to adopt one of the quotes and generate either additional budget or a special levy. <br />
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I have never seen any “concrete cancer” in this building. Concrete cancer typically refers to corrosion in steel reinforcement. Our building is brick with render. As far as I’m aware the only place we could have concrete cancer is in the slabs between floors and there has never been any indication of that. There’s some rusting steel angle but that’s not concrete cancer. What we are talking about here is cosmetic and waterproofing not structural as concrete cancer can be. <br />
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Will the engineer follow up with quotes for the works that need to be carried out immediately?<br />
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It looks like there’s a lot of work to be carried out and I note the images and points around rust and moisture in the facade and building but I don’t see anything about concrete cancer, unless I’m missing something?<br />
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You can download the building report from the included link. It's to big for email. There's nothing unexpected there that I can see. I have ask Sarah to follow up and get a quote for the work to generate the technical spec for rectification which can be used for the tender process.<br />
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Warm regards<br />
Matt<br />
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