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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-AU link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Again, happy to have an EC meeting.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>There would not be a situation where we would be “setting two experts on a conflicting course”. Noviion also provide structural engineering reports, so I don’t understand your point, Paul.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>A zoom meeting……..would everyone like to give me some times/dates when you are available and I’ll set one up?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Cheers. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US> Paul Mooney <paulmooney@manxpm.com.au> <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 5, 2023 10:57 AM<br><b>To:</b> cscl@optusnet.com.au<br><b>Cc:</b> matt@perkins.id.au; ec@200william.com<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [200WILLIAM-EC SP67851] FW: ATTENTION RICK - RE: MARQUIS APARTMENTS, 200 WILLIAM STREET, WOOLLOOMOOLOO N.S.W.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Dear EC etc,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I also disagree with this move considering that we have already agreed to engage a structural engineer to inspect the overall building. It would seem to be setting two experts on a conflicting course.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Let’s get the engineers report and then plan accordingly.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I also agree with Matt that an EC meeting is appropriate, it should not be led by one person, seems the whole point of having a collective committee.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I think one step at a time and get it right.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Regards<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Paul<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On 5 Sep 2023, at 7:44 am, <a href="mailto:cscl@optusnet.com.au">cscl@optusnet.com.au</a> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Hi Matt,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I’m happy to have an EC meeting. I’m interested as to why you don’t accept the expert’s (the Engineer) and the report’s recommendation?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Okay………..let’s organize an EC asap everyone.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Cheers,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Craig </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US> <a href="mailto:matt@perkins.id.au">matt@perkins.id.au</a> <<a href="mailto:matt@perkins.id.au">matt@perkins.id.au</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 5, 2023 10:24 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:ec@200william.com">ec@200william.com</a>; <a href="mailto:cscl@optusnet.com.au">cscl@optusnet.com.au</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [200WILLIAM-EC SP67851] FW: ATTENTION RICK - RE: MARQUIS APARTMENTS, 200 WILLIAM STREET, WOOLLOOMOOLOO N.S.W.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div name=messageBodySection><div><p class=MsoNormal>No Craig,<br> I do not agree. I think we should have a EC meeting to discuss the matter. <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div name=messageSignatureSection><p class=MsoNormal><br>Matt<o:p></o:p></p></div><div name=messageReplySection><p class=MsoNormal>On 5 Sep 2023 at 10:16 AM +1000, <a href="mailto:cscl@optusnet.com.au">cscl@optusnet.com.au</a>, wrote:<br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Good morning,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>As some of you may be aware, ZENITH Residences, above the Coca Cola sign, are presently having cladding removed from their building because they do not meet the <30% legal requirement.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>We have a report, dated July 13, 2021, from Noviion Engineering, based on a core sample which was taken from our building. I wanted to ensure that we do in fact meet the requirements, so I read the report and became very concerned. There is alarming information, under “Recommendation”. Please see emails below.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I spoke to George Dahrie, the Principal Engineer from Noviion, this morning and he stated he has been waiting to hear from us, since the initial recommendations were made in their report to us. Presently, even though we are <30%, from the core sample they took from our building, we still do not meet the legal requirements. Noviion need to verify the type and brand of cladding, which we presently don’t know. A whole panel must be removed to find the cladding brand name. Once we know the maker’s name, Noviion will assess the panel (name) and provide us with engineering advice.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Darren, would you please find a suitable contractor to take out a whole panel please and have the maker’s name given to me. I will then contact George Dahrie and provide him with the panel maker’s name.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Unless anyone has any questions, I’m sure you’ll agree, it is essential that we follow through with this matter asap.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Craig<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=EN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US> George Dahrie <<a href="mailto:george.dahrie@noviion.com.au">george.dahrie@noviion.com.au</a>><br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 5, 2023 9:22 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:cscl@optusnet.com.au">cscl@optusnet.com.au</a><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: ATTENTION RICK - RE: MARQUIS APARTMENTS, 200 WILLIAM STREET, WOOLLOOMOOLOO N.S.W.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Hi Craig,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Thank you for the email.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Regarding the report, to be compliant the ACP needs to both have testing data and <30% PE.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>At the time of assessment, no information could be located to verify the type and brand of cladding.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>As such, our recommendation is to replace the cladding to meet current Australian Standards.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>If a panel is removed and we are provided the brand, we can research the testing data and advise on its compliance.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>The cost of the assessment and engineering advice will be $2,540+GST.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>If you wish to proceed or require additional information, please do not hesitate to ask.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Kind Regards,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:13.5pt'>George Dahrie </span> <br><i>Principal Engineer</i><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:gray'>BE(Civil & Env)</span> <span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#767171'>CPEng</span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:gray'>(IEAust)</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:gray'>NACE (8264278)</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#767171'>Design Practitioner -DEP0001192</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#767171'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:5.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:gray'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><image001.png><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:5.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><image001.png><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal> <a href="mailto:george.dahrie@noviion.com.au">george.dahrie@noviion.com.au</a><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><image002.png><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal> 0414 448 660<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><image003.png><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal> 9635-9789<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><image004.png><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal> <a href="http://noviion.com.au/">noviion.com.au</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><image005.png><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;text-align:justify;line-height:8.75pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:silver'>The contents of this e-mail and its attachments are confidential and may be subject to legal professional privilege and copyright.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;text-align:justify;line-height:8.75pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:silver'>It is intended solely for the addressee. 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Thank you for your cooperation.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=EN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US> <a href="mailto:cscl@optusnet.com.au">cscl@optusnet.com.au</a> <<a href="mailto:cscl@optusnet.com.au">cscl@optusnet.com.au</a>><br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 29, 2023 2:03 PM<br><b>To:</b> Noviion Client Services <<a href="mailto:admin@noviion.com.au">admin@noviion.com.au</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> ATTENTION RICK - RE: MARQUIS APARTMENTS, 200 WILLIAM STREET, WOOLLOOMOOLOO N.S.W.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Dear Rick,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><u>Client: SP 67851, Client Address 200 William Street, Woolloomooloo - Job # 21288</u><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Thank you for your time today.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>As I mentioned, I have reviewed the above job # 21288 report, and would like to further investigate two points:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:54.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>The report states on page 8: “<b>Recommendation</b> - Based on the laboratory results provided, it is interpolated that approximately 29% of the core material is low density polyethylene. Polyethylene cores typically are not fire-rated and the panels themselves would therefore not conform with current Australian Standards. Under section 9(1) of the Building Products (Safety) Act 2017, the act prohibits the use of aluminium composite panels (ACP) with a core comprised of greater than 30% polyethylene (PE) by mass in any external cladding and wall. That act states the installation of non-compliant cladding in accordance with the act is retrospective and as such requires to be adequately remediated. The laboratory results have identified the Aluminium Composite Panels to have a polyethylene core slightly less than 30% by mass. However, based on the high combustibility and unknown manufacturer of the installed product, it is recommended that all ACP cladding to the façade be replaced with a suitable non-combustible material. This assessment has only considered the likelihood of Aluminium Composite Panels (ACP) panelling being installed on the building façade.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>You agreed with me that there is slight ambiguity in the recommendations. Would you please confirm if your company is recommending that we should remove all cladding on our building, despite the ACP having a less than 30% mass. The report does state, <u>because there is unknown material in the ACP</u>, it is Noviion’s recommendation “that all ACP cladding to the façade be replaced with non-combustible material.”<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:54.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>Are we required under present regulations (2023) to remove all our cladding, because the percentages of the ACP, with a core (may) have been reduced i.e. lower than 30% mass?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Thank you, Rick. I look forward to hearing from you as soon as possible.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Best regards,<br>Craig Laforest<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Chairman – Body Corporate<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Marquis Apartments<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>--<br>ec mailing list<br><a href="mailto:ec@mailman.perkins.id.au">ec@mailman.perkins.id.au</a><br><a href="http://mailman.perkins.id.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ec">http://mailman.perkins.id.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ec</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal>-- <br>ec mailing list<br><a href="mailto:ec@mailman.perkins.id.au">ec@mailman.perkins.id.au</a><br><a href="http://mailman.perkins.id.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ec">http://mailman.perkins.id.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ec</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div></div></body></html>