[200WILLIAM-EC SP67851] Apartment Building External Works - ACP Cladding Replacement Proposal

[matt at perkins.id.au]

Im Fairly confident its cinderblock and concrete behind the cladding.

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On 6 Feb 2025 at 12:30 PM +1100, Paul Mooney <paulmooney at manxpm.com.au>, wrote:
> Just a thought.
> Is there any reason why one item of cladding cannot be removed, possibly the corner on McElrone because it’s closer to the pavement, to ascertain exactly what is underneath the cladding? It could save a lot of bother if it turns out to be a simple fix.
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> Paul
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> > On 6 Feb 2025, at 11:01 am, matt at perkins.id.au wrote:
> >
> > Hi Craig and all,
> > That is not what was agreed to at the meeting, and the rationale was so we did not pay double to get the scaffolding up twice. The idea is to just meet the fire requirements deadline before we all have to leave the building and then get quotes and start the process of totally refurbishing the exterior. This is where the panels will be replaced, the render fixed, and the building painted. Any complex work here will also require a DA. It's a long process.
> >
> > The quotes, as per the meeting, were supposed to just remove the cladding so that the fire certificate would pass. Dissecting what we have in the quotes, it looks like there's a component in both "Newlife" and "Updown" to do that. But then they go astray by adding scaffold and including new panels that we may or may not even do. We might just paint or use tiles or whatever. We don't know.
> >
> > I suggest we ask "Newlife" and "Updown" to amend their quotes so it just has removal and temporary water proofing and then compare the costs of the two. We can then take it to the BMC for approval.
> >
> > The Brief is simple.    Use rope and ladder to remove old cladding.   Temporary waterproof  with membrane paint if needed.  I have no idea how it got blown out of all proportion.  Otherwise we will be throwing $100k in the bin.
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> > Regards,
> > Matt P
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> > On 6 Feb 2025 at 10:22 AM +1100, cscl at optusnet.com.au, wrote:
> > > Hello Matt and EC and Sarah,
> > >
> > > My thoughts are if the cladding is taken out isn’t it a better decision to replace what is required to put in there/over the former cladding and to also waterproof the cladding area. As builder is performing the removal why not include the replacement just in case the rains etc enter the building. Again, I’m not certain what is under the present cladding, but is it waterproofed behind it?
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Craig
> > >
> > >
> > > Please find updated spreadsheet with the two new quotes - Newlife and U0403571333
> > > > On 5 Feb 2025 at 4:40 PM +1100, Marquis <Marquis at bfms.com.au>, wrote:
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > >
> > > > > Correct, I contacted Canopy yesterday and he told me that they thought that they were only removing the cladding "not replacing"
> > > > >
> > > > > I've asked them to amend the quote for replacement and I expect that shortly
> > > > >
> > > > > Please see attached 2 other quotes received from Updown Access and Newlife
> > > > >
> > > > > Kind Regards
> > > > >
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> > > > > Matt
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> > > > > > On 5 Feb 2025, at 3:56 pm, Kylie Curtis <kyliempearce at icloud.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Hi Matt
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks for sending through.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It looks like Buildcorp are not quoting us to replace cladding but Canopy are?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is this correct? If so, Buildcorp is very expensive!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We need the cladding replaced asap with non combustible cladding I would have thought.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Can Buildcorp quote us for also replacing cladding so we can properly compare?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thank you again for organising.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Over to you Greg for the 3rd quote.
> > > > > > Warm Regards,
> > > > > > Kylie
> > > > > > Sent from my iPhone
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> > > > > > > On 5 Feb 2025, at 2:54 pm, Matthew Guy <matthew_guy at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Please find attached a summary of the two quotes we have for the cladding removal so far.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Greg can you please chase the final quote? We need to make a decision ideally this week to abide by council.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > As soon as it comes in I will add to the spreadsheet.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Matt G
> > > > > > > From: ec <ec-bounces at mailman.perkins.id.au> on behalf of Paul Mooney <paulmooney at manxpm.com.au>
> > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, 4 February 2025 7:30 PM
> > > > > > > To: cscl at optusnet.com.au <cscl at optusnet.com.au>
> > > > > > > Cc: ec at 200william.com <ec at 200william.com>; Marquis <Marquis at bfms.com.au>
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [200WILLIAM-EC SP67851] Apartment Building External Works - ACP Cladding Replacement Proposal
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> > > > > > > Craig and others
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I had this same conversation with Matt this afternoon.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Agreed.
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> > > > > > > Paul
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> > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone
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> > > > > > > > On 4 Feb 2025, at 3:45 pm, cscl at optusnet.com.au wrote:
> > > > > > > > I suggest we wait until Matt has received all the proposals and has been able to create the details in his analysis. We can meet once we’ve been able to digest what he emails to us.
> > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > > Craig
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> > > > > > > > From: ec <ec-bounces at mailman.perkins.id.au> On Behalf Of Paul Mooney
> > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, 4 February 2025 3:24 PM
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> > > > > > > > > > From: Matthew Guy <matthew_guy at hotmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, 3 February 2025 4:50 PM
> > > > > > > > > > To: Peter Delohery <peter_delohery at buildcorp.com.au>
> > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Apartment Building External Works - ACP Cladding Replacement Proposal
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> > > > > > > > > > Hi Peter,
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> > > > > > > > > > Just checking, the 'removal and replacement of curved elements' on both corners - this is the actual cladding under the bay windows isnt it? This is not the glass feature awnings just above street level?
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> > > > > > > > > > Matt
> > > > > > > > > > From: Peter Delohery <peter_delohery at buildcorp.com.au>
> > > > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, 3 February 2025 3:42 PM
> > > > > > > > > > To: Matthew Guy <matthew_guy at hotmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: Apartment Building External Works - ACP Cladding Replacement Proposal
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> > > > > > > > > > Hi Matthew,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Please find attached our proposal to undertake the ACP replacement [being the 1st part of your request below] – in order that the EC may act on same (given timing pressures).
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> > > > > > > > > > We believe hoardings will be required in conjunction with abseilers to complete the works to each spandrel as efficiently as possible (with minimal impact on occupants / retailers). That being said, if engaged, we can prepare a Traffic Control Plan [TCP] and discuss the possibilities with Council [CoS] for dispensation from full B-Class hoardings. If there is any dispensation from this, we can provide a reduction by means of HCV credit.
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> > > > > > > > > > Typically, there is a 4-week turnaround once TCP / hoarding plans are submitted for CoS to approve (as long as it doesn’t need to go to a traffic panel meeting) – which again makes your timeframe VERY compressed to initiate the works to meet Fire Order requirements.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Unfortunately, the costs associated with doing the ACP replacement works in isolation [circa $200K] makes this exercise very inefficient from a wholistic building refurbishment perspective and it would have been great to incorporate same within a wider Scope of Works that could be scheduled to maximise benefits of undertaking other demolition works to the facade. The costs associated with hoardings will ultimately have to be repeated, once balance of remediation works and/or building betterment are identified and initiated.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > The replacement cladding materials in this colour are typically in stock, but will need EC approval of same before ordering.
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> > > > > > > > > > We’ll keep putting some refined budgets together for balance of building works (albeit stipulating the number of balconies to be included within same) – but the focus needs to be on the non-compliant ACP replacement for now.
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> > > > > > > > > > Don’t hesitate to call with any queries.
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