[200WILLIAM-EC SP67851] AGM

cscl at optusnet.com.au cscl at optusnet.com.au
Sat Apr 19 20:53:25 AEST 2025


I'm okay with the first week of June also. Though it lies outside those dates, I cannot do June 10.

Cheers,

Craig

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> On Sat Apr 19 2025 <matt at perkins.id.au> wrote:
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> ---------- Original Message ----------
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> I can also do 1st week of June if we lock it in. I typically go to the
> Whitsundays for winter but I can wait a week.
> 
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> 
> Matt
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> On 19 Apr 2025 at 2:14 PM +1000, Paul Mooney <paulmooney at manxpm.com.au>,
> wrote:
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> 
>> Sarah,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Can do first week June but would like to lock in an early date because I
>> want to book to go away June , so 1st -7th OK .
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> P
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 19 Apr 2025, at 8:26 am, Sarah | AscendCorp Strata
>>> <sarah at ascendcorpstrata.com.au> wrote:
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>>>  Hi all,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Just jumping on here to confirm AGM dates, I am away the week of the 26th
>>> May, can do any day the week after (first week of June).
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> John I am happy to pick you up on the way through and drop you at the door
>>> of the Rex prior to parking, it’s no trouble at all and would be my
>>> pleasure.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Once everyone confirms which date, I will book the Rex.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> In the meantime please enjoy your Easter Long weekend and stay off
>>> emails!!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sarah Walmsley
>>> 
>>> Managing Director and Licensee in Charge
>>> 
>>> AscendCorp Strata Pty Ltd
>>> 
>>> 02 9799 1111
>>> 
>>> www.ascendcorp.com.au
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 18 Apr 2025, at 7:22 pm, cscl at optusnet.com.au wrote:
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>>>> 
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Again, I return to Sydney on May 23 so any date after that for the AGM is
>>>> great with me. May 29 is fine.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I believe we should find it in our budget to rent the room at the REX,
>>>> (the same or similar room to what we had last time). Plenty of seating.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> And John, you must attend!  I can get you into a taxi or an UBER and
>>>> travel with you to the REX.  Off Greenknowe Avenue, there is Baroda St
>>>> which lands you right next to the Kings Cross Community Centre Op Shop and
>>>> the room where we had the last AGM. Same deal on the return. I hope that
>>>> assists with your decision John. I will take care of the taxi/UBER.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> In the meantime, I hope the meeting or meetings the EC has, leading up to
>>>> May 29 (if that is to be the confirmed date for the AGM) go well.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> 
>>>> Craig
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri Apr 18 2025 <matt at perkins.id.au> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> ---------- Original Message ----------
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I don't think it's practical this time . The AGM could bring a lot of
>>>>> people this year, and the roof may be rain-affected at the proposed time
>>>>> of year. I think the Rex worked very well last time and would be the
>>>>> preferred option if it's available. If Sarah and the room are both
>>>>> available on the 29th and Carigs back and happy with that date I think
>>>>> it's a good option.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Matt
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> P
>>>>> --   
>>>>> ** DO NOT SEND PRIVATE OR CONFIDENTIAL MATERIAL VIA EMAIL   
>>>>> 
>>>>> Matt
>>>>> Perkins
>>>>> 0403571333
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 18 Apr 2025 at 6:07 PM +1000, Paul Mooney <paulmooney at manxpm.com.au>,
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> John,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> We have all agreed in the past that a serious meeting cannot function in
>>>>>> the lobby. Im sure that between us we can work out an acceptable way of
>>>>>> transferring you to the Rex.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> No combat required, just combined cooperation.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 18 Apr 2025, at 10:55 am, John Burmey <j.burney at auscorpimage.com.au>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Out of the question is rather assumptive Paul, Sarah has no objection. I
>>>>>>> will leave it to the committee to decide., If I cant attend so be it, I
>>>>>>> expect the  committee members and Sarah will steer the AGM toward rational
>>>>>>> conclusions.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Regards john
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> *From:* Paul Mooney <paulmooney at manxpm.com.au>
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, 18 April 2025 1:30 PM
>>>>>>> *To:* EC Mailing List <ec at 200william.com>
>>>>>>> *Cc:* MQ Sarah | AscendCorp Strata <sarah at ascendcorpstrata.com.au>; MQ
>>>>>>> Matthew Guy Sebastian 405 <matthew_guy at hotmail.com>; MQ. Craig Laforest
>>>>>>> <cscl at optusnet.com.au>; MQ Kylie Pearce G4 <kyliempearce at icloud.com>; John
>>>>>>> Burmey <j.burney at auscorpimage.com.au>
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [200WILLIAM-EC SP67851] AGM
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Craig has already noted that his return date is later next month.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Whilst I totally sympathise with John I cannot agree with meeting in
>>>>>>> Marquis, we had this debate last time and ended up at the council room at
>>>>>>> the Rex.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> A lobby meeting is out of the question.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I am prepared to discuss transport options with John.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 18 Apr 2025, at 9:33 am, John Burmey < j.burney at auscorpimage.com.au >
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hello Matt,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I am fine with any week we just need to get it done, week of 19 th fine
>>>>>>>> with me if we hold it on site at the Marquis.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Regards john.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> *From:* ec < ec-bounces at mailman.perkins.id.au > *On Behalf Of* matt at perkins.id.au
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, 18 April 2025 10:36 AM
>>>>>>>> *To:* ec at mailman.perkins.id.au
>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [200WILLIAM-EC SP67851] Next committee meeting
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Just following up now we have picked the gathering date before the AGM.
>>>>>>>> Can we please advise if the week of the 19th is ok for Sarah for the AGM. 
>>>>>>>> There statutory requirements to notification that require us to act for
>>>>>>>> timing in that week.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I propose Tuesday the 20th.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Matt
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>> On 18 Apr 2025 at 10:26 AM +1000, aus psy < aus.psy at outlook.com >, wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I am ok to do any night Sarah.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Regards john
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> From: Sarah | AscendCorp Strata < sarah at ascendcorpstrata.com.au >
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, 17 April 2025 11:04 AM
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> To: Paul Mooney < paulmooney at manxpm.com.au >; Kylie Curtis < kyliempearce at icloud.com
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Cc: EC Mailing List < ec at 200william.com >; John Burney MQ < aus.psy at outlook.com
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: [200WILLIAM-EC SP67851] Next committee meeting
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Importance: High
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> We need to provide 14 days' notice for the AGM now, along with 7 days
>>>>>>>>> clear notice for postage, this was introduced in the updated Act only last
>>>>>>>>> year.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> We would need to have the AGM the week of the 19th May, to comply with the
>>>>>>>>> notice requirements. I can do any night that week expect for Wednesday
>>>>>>>>> (and we do not convene meetings on Friday evenings or weekends).
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> If the committee can please let me know their preference, I have also
>>>>>>>>> received a request from John B to hold the meeting at the building to
>>>>>>>>> assist him with attending the meeting.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Looking forward to hearing from you.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> SARAH WALMSLEY | MANAGING DIRECTOR & LICENSEE IN CHARGE FELLOW STRATA
>>>>>>>>> COMMUNITY MANAGER (FSCM)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> From: ec < ec-bounces at mailman.perkins.id.au > On Behalf Of Paul Mooney
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, 16 April 2025 9:08 PM
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> To: Kylie Curtis < kyliempearce at icloud.com >
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Cc: EC Mailing List < ec at 200william.com >; John Burney MQ < aus.psy at outlook.com
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [200WILLIAM-EC SP67851] Next committee meeting
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I am currently available Friday 2nd
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> and both 6th and 7th, to fit in with Kylie.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 16 Apr 2025, at 3:59 am, Kylie Curtis < kyliempearce at icloud.com > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Paul and committee members
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I am available that week on the Tues 6 or Wed 7 May.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Warm regards
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Kylie
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> > On 15 Apr 2025, at 21:42, Paul Mooney < paulmooney at manxpm.com.au > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> > Hello All,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> > In line with our discussion at the last meeting, is everyone in favour
>>>>>>>>>>> of a follow up meeting first week of May . I think it would be productive.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> > I think Craig might be away so am happy to host.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> > If you want to include Greg please invite him.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> > Cheers
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> > Paul
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> > Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
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