[200William-EC SP67851] New view impact study letter

Matthew Perkins - Private matt at perkins.id.au
Wed Oct 12 11:53:55 AEDT 2022


That's fine by me

Matt


On 12/10/2022 10:00 am, Natalie @ NRP wrote:
>
> Hello All.
>
> I have been thinking about this.
>
> I think I am best to actually speak to the Council Officer about the 
> situation and say that we have a view study and that the letter does 
> not include extensive details and seems to have only been sent to some 
> people (I understand other stratas many not have received anything so 
> it may be ‘selective’ ie not what was required by the Council letter).
>
> Also, that we would like to be seeing a version of revised plans 
> before we let anyone infringe on privacy with drones or visits.
>
> It is worth seeing what the Officer says.
>
> Do you agree with this approach?
>
> I thought over night that it may be best not to approach the 
> consultant directly as this request has come from Council.
>
> Thanks, Natalie
>
> *From:*Matthew Perkins - Private <matt at perkins.id.au>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 11 October 2022 8:27 PM
> *To:* Matthew Guy <matthew_guy at hotmail.com>
> *Cc:* Craig Laforest <cscl at optusnet.com.au>; ec at 200william.com; 
> 'Natalie @ NRP' <natalie at natalierichterplanning.com.au>
> *Subject:* Re: [200William-EC SP67851] New view impact study letter
>
> Hi Natalie,
>
>  We are happy for you to call the people on the attached notification.
>
> Matt Perhaps I should get Darren to post a notice through each door 
> tomorrow that the note is not from the building and is not official 
> communications.
>
> Matt
>
> On 11/10/2022 8:55 am, Matthew Guy wrote:
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>     I am more than happy for Natalie to contact them and suss them out.
>
>     Matt
>
>
>
>         On 11 Oct 2022, at 9:35 am, Matthew Perkins - Private
>         <matt at perkins.id.au> <mailto:matt at perkins.id.au> wrote:
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>         
>
>         What's your opinion Matt & Craig.  I dont have any objection
>         in Natalie contacting this view consultant. We might have an
>         issue stopping them using a drone as they will just do it on
>         the street and not over private property and likely when we
>         are not expecting it and are in a position to prevent them.
>
>         Matt.
>
>         On 11/10/2022 8:27 am, Natalie @ NRP wrote:
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>             Thank you all for letting me know about this.
>
>             The letter does seem a bit strange, not being on a
>             letterhead, not referencing the DA etc.
>
>             I have seen Urbaine’s work in the past. It would be handy
>             to be able to look up a web address for you all.
>             Interesting that they have changed view assessment
>             consultants..
>
>             We did the view impact assessment yes. What they will be
>             wanting to do now is to model a revised design and provide
>             the montages to show what is proposed. Using the CAD
>             drawings from the architect to overlay into the photo
>             frames – which we were not able to do without further
>             expense. A modelling expert would need to apply all the
>             RLS and heights and setbacks of the buildings into our
>             photo study.
>
>             At this stage, I would be like to see the/a revised
>             building design.
>
>             I would not be permitting them to use a drone. We would
>             not have any ability to determine where the photos are
>             taken from or what height etc. They are invasive as well.
>
>             The following is a paste from what the Land and
>             Environment Court considers when they look at a rigorous
>             view impact assessment.
>
>             One idea is that I could call this person on your behalf
>             and suss them out and ask at what stage they are at as to
>             the revision?
>
>             If they are simply trying to peddle the current design
>             (which I don’t think they can) then we wouldn’t be needing
>             them to come to homes.
>
>             It can be a catch 22. If it is a revised design, we /_do_/
>             want a montage and proper architectural analysis done (as
>             they have been asked to do) to show the form of the
>             building within the view frames and ensure the best view
>             protection and to see what the impact is.
>
>             We could also seek the advice of a planning lawyer on
>             this. This may be prudent.
>
>             I can also speak to Reinah, the Council officer. Some
>             Councils do their own assessments once a proposal comes in.
>
>             Again, it comes back to that if they propose an amended
>             design, we would want the view modelled (with an
>             architectural block overlay in front of the views) to know
>             what the impact is.
>
>             The benefit of what we did, is to use the camera at the
>             specified height and marked the locations and so they
>             could theoretically use ours. Of course, it would be up to
>             that company though - as it would be their authored work
>             and they would need to be comfortable.
>
>             Please let me know what you think and if you wish to discuss.
>
>             Regards, Natalie
>
>             /Use of photomontages /
>
>             /The following requirements for photomontages proposed to
>             be relied on as or as part of expert evidence in Class 1
>             appeals will apply for proceedings commenced on or after 1
>             October 2013. The following directions will apply to
>             photomontages from that date: Requirements for
>             photomontages 1. Any photomontage proposed to be relied on
>             in an expert report or as demonstrating an expert opinion
>             as an accurate depiction of some intended future change to
>             the present physical position concerning an identified
>             location is to be accompanied by: Existing Photograph. a)
>             A photograph showing the current, unchanged view of the
>             location depicted in the photomontage from the same
>             viewing point as that of the photomontage (the existing
>             photograph); b) A copy of the existing photograph with the
>             wire frame lines depicted so as to demonstrate the data
>             from which the photomontage has been constructed. The wire
>             frame overlay represents the existing surveyed elements
>             which correspond with the same elements in the existing
>             photograph; and c) A 2D plan showing the location of the
>             camera and target point that corresponds to the same
>             location the existing photograph was taken. Survey data.
>             d) Confirmation that accurate 2D/3D survey data has been
>             used to prepare the Photomontages. This is to include
>             confirmation that survey data was used: i. for depiction
>             of existing buildings or existing elements as shown in the
>             wire frame; and ii. to establish an accurate camera
>             location and RL of the camera. 2. Any expert statement or
>             other document demonstrating an expert opinion that
>             proposes to rely on a photomontage is to include details
>             of: a) The name and qualifications of the surveyor who
>             prepared the survey information from which the underlying
>             data for the wire frame from which the photomontage was
>             derived was obtained; and b) The camera type and field of
>             view of the lens used for the purpose of the photograph in
>             (1)(a) from which the photomontage has been derived./
>
>             //
>
>             Natalie Richter Planning
>
>             PO Box 59 Mt Colah NSW 2079
>
>             m. 0438 828 972
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>             *From:*Matthew Perkins - Private <matt at perkins.id.au>
>             <mailto:matt at perkins.id.au>
>             *Sent:* Tuesday, 11 October 2022 9:00 AM
>             *To:* Craig Laforest <cscl at optusnet.com.au>
>             <mailto:cscl at optusnet.com.au>; ec at 200william.com
>             *Cc:* info at natalierichterplanning.com.au
>             *Subject:* Re: [200William-EC SP67851] New view impact
>             study letter
>
>             Hi Craig given that It does sound like the developer.
>
>             Matt.
>
>             On 11/10/2022 5:49 am, Craig Laforest wrote:
>
>
>                 Hello EC,
>
>                 I didn't contact Daniel Knight and I don't believe we
>                 should contact him or any company engaged to take
>                 pictures from inside our properties or agree to a
>                 drone taking a video.
>
>                  We had a complete view impact study done as part of
>                 the complaint we lodged through Natalie Richter and
>                 included pictures from many of our apartments.  I have
>                 included Natalie in this email as it doesn't appear
>                 she was included in Matthew Guy's email.
>
>                 Regards,
>
>                 Craig
>
>
>                     ----- Original Message -----
>
>                     *From:*
>
>                     "Matthew Perkins - Private" <matt at perkins.id.au>
>                     <mailto:matt at perkins.id.au>
>
>                     *To:*
>
>                     <ec at 200william.com> <mailto:ec at 200william.com>
>
>                     *Cc:*
>
>                     *Sent:*
>
>                     Mon, 10 Oct 2022 19:42:00 +1000
>
>                     *Subject:*
>
>                     Re: [200William-EC SP67851] New view impact study
>                     letter
>
>
>                     I assume this is from the developer. I dont think
>                     it's from us. (unless it's something Craig has
>                     done)   Given that are you better off refusing.
>                     They have no right to access your premises.  They
>                     will be using this to try and prove you are not
>                     loosing a view so any photos they take will be
>                     edited/sorted in the favor of the developer.  I
>                     dont know if it's in our interest to cooperate.
>                     The Council asked them to do a view impact study
>                     as part of the DA.
>
>                     In the end i would say we would need to do our own
>                     study that will try and discredit theirs.
>
>                     Matt.
>
>                     On 10/10/2022 7:33 pm, Matthew Guy wrote:
>
>                         Hi EC and Natalie,
>
>                         I have received a letter from Daniel Knight at
>                         Urbaine requesting access to conduct a view
>                         impact study for the new development, see below.
>
>                         The letter was not addressed and not in an
>                         envelope. I am afraid it’s possible many
>                         people would have missed it or thought it was
>                         junk.
>
>                         We definitely need to engage. Is this
>                         something we should do as a building or
>                         individually?
>
>                         Regards,
>
>                         Matthew Guy
>
>                         405
>
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