[200William-EC SP67851] New view impact study letter

Matthew Perkins - Private matt at perkins.id.au
Tue Oct 11 09:35:18 AEDT 2022


What's your opinion Matt & Craig.  I dont have any objection in Natalie 
contacting this view consultant. We might have an issue stopping them 
using a drone as they will just do it on the street and not over private 
property and likely when we are not expecting it and are in a position 
to prevent them.

Matt.


On 11/10/2022 8:27 am, Natalie @ NRP wrote:
>
> Thank you all for letting me know about this.
>
> The letter does seem a bit strange, not being on a letterhead, not 
> referencing the DA etc.
>
> I have seen Urbaine’s work in the past. It would be handy to be able 
> to look up a web address for you all. Interesting that they have 
> changed view assessment consultants..
>
> We did the view impact assessment yes. What they will be wanting to do 
> now is to model a revised design and provide the montages to show what 
> is proposed. Using the CAD drawings from the architect to overlay into 
> the photo frames – which we were not able to do without further 
> expense. A modelling expert would need to apply all the RLS and 
> heights and setbacks of the buildings into our photo study.
>
> At this stage, I would be like to see the/a revised building design.
>
> I would not be permitting them to use a drone. We would not have any 
> ability to determine where the photos are taken from or what height 
> etc. They are invasive as well.
>
> The following is a paste from what the Land and Environment Court 
> considers when they look at a rigorous view impact assessment.
>
> One idea is that I could call this person on your behalf and suss them 
> out and ask at what stage they are at as to the revision?
>
> If they are simply trying to peddle the current design (which I don’t 
> think they can) then we wouldn’t be needing them to come to homes.
>
> It can be a catch 22. If it is a revised design, we /_do_/ want a 
> montage and proper architectural analysis done (as they have been 
> asked to do) to show the form of the building within the view frames 
> and ensure the best view protection and to see what the impact is.
>
> We could also seek the advice of a planning lawyer on this. This may 
> be prudent.
>
> I can also speak to Reinah, the Council officer. Some Councils do 
> their own assessments once a proposal comes in.
>
> Again, it comes back to that if they propose an amended design, we 
> would want the view modelled (with an architectural block overlay in 
> front of the views) to know what the impact is.
>
> The benefit of what we did, is to use the camera at the specified 
> height and marked the locations and so they could theoretically use 
> ours. Of course, it would be up to that company though - as it would 
> be their authored work and they would need to be comfortable.
>
> Please let me know what you think and if you wish to discuss.
>
> Regards, Natalie
>
> /Use of photomontages /
>
> /The following requirements for photomontages proposed to be relied on 
> as or as part of expert evidence in Class 1 appeals will apply for 
> proceedings commenced on or after 1 October 2013. The following 
> directions will apply to photomontages from that date: Requirements 
> for photomontages 1. Any photomontage proposed to be relied on in an 
> expert report or as demonstrating an expert opinion as an accurate 
> depiction of some intended future change to the present physical 
> position concerning an identified location is to be accompanied by: 
> Existing Photograph. a) A photograph showing the current, unchanged 
> view of the location depicted in the photomontage from the same 
> viewing point as that of the photomontage (the existing photograph); 
> b) A copy of the existing photograph with the wire frame lines 
> depicted so as to demonstrate the data from which the photomontage has 
> been constructed. The wire frame overlay represents the existing 
> surveyed elements which correspond with the same elements in the 
> existing photograph; and c) A 2D plan showing the location of the 
> camera and target point that corresponds to the same location the 
> existing photograph was taken. Survey data. d) Confirmation that 
> accurate 2D/3D survey data has been used to prepare the Photomontages. 
> This is to include confirmation that survey data was used: i. for 
> depiction of existing buildings or existing elements as shown in the 
> wire frame; and ii. to establish an accurate camera location and RL of 
> the camera. 2. Any expert statement or other document demonstrating an 
> expert opinion that proposes to rely on a photomontage is to include 
> details of: a) The name and qualifications of the surveyor who 
> prepared the survey information from which the underlying data for the 
> wire frame from which the photomontage was derived was obtained; and 
> b) The camera type and field of view of the lens used for the purpose 
> of the photograph in (1)(a) from which the photomontage has been derived./
>
> //
>
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>
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>
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> *From:*Matthew Perkins - Private <matt at perkins.id.au>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 11 October 2022 9:00 AM
> *To:* Craig Laforest <cscl at optusnet.com.au>; ec at 200william.com
> *Cc:* info at natalierichterplanning.com.au
> *Subject:* Re: [200William-EC SP67851] New view impact study letter
>
> Hi Craig given that It does sound like the developer.
>
> Matt.
>
> On 11/10/2022 5:49 am, Craig Laforest wrote:
>
>
>     Hello EC,
>
>     I didn't contact Daniel Knight and I don't believe we should
>     contact him or any company engaged to take pictures from inside
>     our properties or agree to a drone taking a video.
>
>      We had a complete view impact study done as part of the complaint
>     we lodged through Natalie Richter and included pictures from many
>     of our apartments.  I have included Natalie in this email as it
>     doesn't appear she was included in Matthew Guy's email.
>
>     Regards,
>
>     Craig
>
>
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>         Mon, 10 Oct 2022 19:42:00 +1000
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>         *Subject:*
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>         Re: [200William-EC SP67851] New view impact study letter
>
>         I assume this is from the developer. I dont think it's from
>         us. (unless it's something Craig has done) Given that are you
>         better off refusing. They have no right to access your
>         premises.  They will be using this to try and prove you are
>         not loosing a view so any photos they take will be
>         edited/sorted in the favor of the developer.  I dont know if
>         it's in our interest to cooperate. The Council asked them to
>         do a view impact study as part of the DA.
>
>         In the end i would say we would need to do our own study that
>         will try and discredit theirs.
>
>         Matt.
>
>         On 10/10/2022 7:33 pm, Matthew Guy wrote:
>
>             Hi EC and Natalie,
>
>             I have received a letter from Daniel Knight at Urbaine
>             requesting access to conduct a view impact study for the
>             new development, see below.
>
>             The letter was not addressed and not in an envelope. I am
>             afraid it’s possible many people would have missed it or
>             thought it was junk.
>
>             We definitely need to engage. Is this something we should
>             do as a building or individually?
>
>             Regards,
>
>             Matthew Guy
>
>             405
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