[200William-EC SP67851] SP 67851 - Update on Tiling for Unit 601 to Prevent Further Water Ingress
Matt Perkins
matt at spectrum.com.au
Tue Feb 12 13:38:07 AEDT 2019
Bad news. Darren has found the Building Insurance / Warranty documents
and it appears to be have expired. The repair was done in 2009 so would
have needed to be claimed before 2016. Interesting the original work
cost $77,000 so was not trivial work. Let's hope it does not cost that
much this time.
Thanks for digging this out Darren. I guess we need to carry on with the
repair now.
Matt
On 12/2/19 12:06 pm, Matt Perkins wrote:
> Further to my last I have spoken with Darren and it does look like
> that area was repaired around 7 years ago. Given that it would be
> covered under that repairs warranty. Darren and William have been
> looking into old records to see if they can find out but they seem
> sparse from that period. They have also going to check with George
> Ziri to confirm. It would be really good if we could get this done at
> no cost to the Strata Plan.
>
> Matt.
>
>
>
> On 12/2/19 11:03 am, Matt Perkins wrote:
>> Sorry guys just to be clear about my last statements. It’s not that i
>> don’t want the work done.
>> I believe the area was repaired 7 years ago. If that’s the case then
>> the repair would be covered under building warranty and builders
>> insurance. This would save the building the expense. I just need
>> Darren to clarify if it’s the same area and if so make a warranty claim.
>>
>> If it’s a different area then I’m happy for the building to pay for
>> the expense.
>>
>> Hope that clears things up
>>
>> Matt
>>
>>
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>> On 12 Feb 2019, at 10:49 am, Ken West <ennvvest at gmail.com
>> <mailto:ennvvest at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>> There are several issues here.
>>> Why was it done so badly in the tiling first place.
>>> What part do the tiles play in waterproofing. As I understand it
>>> they sit on top of foam that sits on top of a membrane.?
>>> What are the accurate costs and time frame for the work.
>>> Why was this not dealt with when the other work was undertaken ?
>>> Do we need more major expensive, noisy, possibly unnecessary or
>>> excessive work to be done at this time.
>>>
>>> Lifting up and restoring tiles is one thing. Especially when a lot
>>> of the issue is due in part by the previous builders .
>>>
>>> We need more info.
>>>
>>> That’s why I noted to glue and seal the dozen loose tiles for now
>>> and schedule any major work if needed at a later date.
>>>
>>> A gold plated roof when the external walls are in disrepair seems
>>> illogical.
>>>
>>> We might need to meet on site to resolve.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Ken West
>>> 602
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On 12 Feb 2019, at 10:02 am, Craig Laforest <cscl at optusnet.com.au
>>> <mailto:cscl at optusnet.com.au>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It’s been 10 days since the email below from Matt.
>>>>
>>>> Patrick would you kindly move ahead with this matter.You have a
>>>> ‘yes’ from myself and Brook Beves.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you.
>>>>
>>>> Craig Laforest
>>>>
>>>> *From:*ec-bounces at 200william.com <mailto:ec-bounces at 200william.com>
>>>> [mailto:ec-bounces at 200william.com] *On Behalf Of *Matt Perkins
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, 4 February 2019 4:21 PM
>>>> *To:* ec at 200william.com <mailto:ec at 200william.com>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [200William-EC SP67851] SP 67851 - Update on Tiling
>>>> for Unit 601 to Prevent Further Water Ingress
>>>>
>>>> Im just checking on some other options with Darren. Should only
>>>> take 24 hours so im going to hold off for a while.
>>>>
>>>> Matt.
>>>>
>>>> On 4/2/19 4:18 pm, Brook Beves wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I have discussed this in detail with Tony from DWRS who has
>>>> stated that we are wasting our time and money with options 1 & 2.
>>>>
>>>> I will follow his opinion and vote for option 3
>>>>
>>>> Brook
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 4 Feb 2019, at 3:43 pm, Patrick Rush
>>>> <prush at stratatitle.com.au <mailto:prush at stratatitle.com.au>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear Committee,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Could I please ask for your response on the below email if
>>>> you have not already responded?
>>>>
>>>> Darren, can you advise on when comparative quotes will be
>>>> provided and are you also obtaining these quotes for Option 3?
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>
>>>> *Patrick Rush*
>>>>
>>>> Regional Community Manager
>>>>
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>>>> *a.* Shop 6/78-80 Alexander Street, CROWS NEST, NSW 2065
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>>>> *From:*Craig Laforest [mailto:cscl at optusnet.com.au]
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 30 January 2019 10:40 AM
>>>> *To:* 'Ken West'; 'Marquis'
>>>> *Cc:* 'Patrick Rush'; 'ec at 200william.com
>>>> <mailto:ec at 200william.com>'
>>>> *Subject:* RE: [200William-EC SP67851] SP 67851 - Update on
>>>> Tiling for Unit 601 to Prevent Further Water Ingress
>>>>
>>>> Hello All,
>>>>
>>>> Ken, your assessment is incorrect. Prior to your moving
>>>> into the building, this type of hogging has happened before
>>>> and it is due to the very limited expansion joints, not the
>>>> weight of anything on the tiles (besides the plants and
>>>> soil were placed on the southern area of deck 7, not in the
>>>> centre around the drain where the uplifting is happening.
>>>>
>>>> We must follow the expert’s advice. Putting a bandage on a
>>>> wound is not the solution. Option 3 is considered the best
>>>> by two of the contractors (per Darren’s email below). I
>>>> vote for option 3.
>>>>
>>>> Craig Laforest
>>>>
>>>> *From:*Ken West [mailto:ennvvest at gmail.com]
>>>> <mailto:[mailto:ennvvest at gmail.com]>
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 30 January 2019 10:19 AM
>>>> *To:* Marquis
>>>> *Cc:* Craig Laforest; Patrick Rush; ec at 200william.com
>>>> <mailto:ec at 200william.com>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [200William-EC SP67851] SP 67851 - Update on
>>>> Tiling for Unit 601 to Prevent Further Water Ingress
>>>>
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> Lets not create more problems.
>>>>
>>>> They just need option 1 at least for now.
>>>>
>>>> The previous builders dumped heavy weights on that area.
>>>>
>>>> The foam under the tiles was compressed and when the loads
>>>> were lifted they sprang back with this is the result.
>>>>
>>>> Ken West
>>>>
>>>> ennvvest at gmail.com <mailto:ennvvest at gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>> 61.401.850505
>>>>
>>>> On 30 Jan 2019, at 9:17 AM, Marquis
>>>> <Marquis at bfms.com.au <mailto:Marquis at bfms.com.au>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Good morning EC,
>>>>
>>>> Just to clarify, the engineer’s advice to rectify the
>>>> hogged tiles on the western terrace was as follows:
>>>>
>>>> Tiles have hogged through the middle of the terrace.
>>>> This area was outside the scope of works and the
>>>> defects report completed by Prestech.
>>>>
>>>> *Remediation action the SC can consider:*
>>>> Option 1. Remove the tiles which have hogged only, and
>>>> re-glue the tiles down. Reinstate the grout and silicon
>>>> expansion joint to match existing.
>>>> Option 2. Remove the two rows of tiles along the length
>>>> of terrace, where the hogging is observed. Cut the
>>>> tiles, to allow for a larger/adequate expansion joint
>>>> along the length of the terrace to be installed.
>>>> Re-glue the tiles to the terrace. New silicon expansion
>>>> joint to be installed between the two rows of tiles,
>>>> and remaining areas to be grouted to match existing.
>>>>
>>>> Option 3. Remove all tiles and reinstate new. Recommend
>>>> also changing the waterproofing membrane if the entire
>>>> terrace tiling is being replaced.
>>>>
>>>> Following inspection from Distinction Waterproofing &
>>>> Remedial Solutions (DWRS)the suggested method of repair
>>>> was to remove the hogged tiles, replace the tile bed,
>>>> install expansion joint and re-glue tiles.When
>>>> intrusive testing of the area was carried out by DWRS
>>>> the hogged tiles were within two rows of tiles along
>>>> the length of the terrace and the tile bed contained
>>>> cracking.Since this time, further cracking of the tile
>>>> bed has occurred due to the movement of the insulation
>>>> foam beneath the tile bed. This is causing the tiles to
>>>> lip throughout the main terrace deck area.Therefore,
>>>> the suggested method of repair would be option 3 as per
>>>> the engineer’s advice (Remediation action the SC can
>>>> consider)
>>>>
>>>> We have had another contractor undertaken inspection
>>>> for a 2^nd opinion and they have agreed with DWRS
>>>> confirming the continued cracking of the tile bed would
>>>> make remediation options 1 or 2 inadequate over time.
>>>>
>>>> We are in the process of obtaining 2 comparative
>>>> quotations for consideration.
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>
>>>> *Darren Vignes*
>>>>
>>>> Building Manager
>>>>
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>>>> *From:*MQ 601 - Craig Laforest <cscl at optusnet.com.au
>>>> <mailto:cscl at optusnet.com.au>>
>>>> *Date:*Thursday, 24 January 2019 at 6:42 pm
>>>> *To:*STM - Patrick Rush <prush at stratatitle.com.au
>>>> <mailto:prush at stratatitle.com.au>>, Marquis
>>>> <Marquis at bfms.com.au <mailto:Marquis at bfms.com.au>>,
>>>> "ec at 200william.com <mailto:ec at 200william.com>"
>>>> <ec at 200william.com <mailto:ec at 200william.com>>
>>>> *Subject:*RE: [200William-EC SP67851] SP 67851 - Update
>>>> on Tiling for Unit 601 to Prevent Further Water Ingress
>>>>
>>>> Hello Patrick,
>>>>
>>>> When the engineer visited the building in September she
>>>> provided us details on what needed to be done in order
>>>> to repair the loose tiles on level 7. Are we now not
>>>> following her advice?
>>>>
>>>> Kindly clarify who DWRS are? Is an engineer’s advice
>>>> being used as part of DWRS’s quotation?
>>>>
>>>> Thank you.
>>>>
>>>> *From:*ec-bounces at 200william.com
>>>> <mailto:ec-bounces at 200william.com>[mailto:ec-bounces at 200william.com]*On
>>>> Behalf Of*Patrick Rush
>>>> *Sent:*Thursday, 24 January 2019 3:52 PM
>>>> *To:*'Marquis BFMS';ec at 200william.com
>>>> <mailto:ec at 200william.com>
>>>> *Subject:*Re: [200William-EC SP67851] SP 67851 - Update
>>>> on Tiling for Unit 601 to Prevent Further Water Ingress
>>>>
>>>> Hi Craig,
>>>>
>>>> See below email form Darren received about this matter –
>>>>
>>>> /Hi Patrick,/
>>>>
>>>> //
>>>>
>>>> /Due to time constraints leading into the Xmas period
>>>> the contractor DWRS attended site on the 21st December
>>>> to make safe the area for NYE. During these works DWRS
>>>> identified additional areas throughout the main deck
>>>> are starting to hog and crack similar to the existing
>>>> damage. Based on this, DWRS advise that the
>>>> proposed/approved repair works would be inadequate and
>>>> have instead recommended removing the existing tiles,
>>>> screed and drainage cells from the main deck area.
>>>> Inspection of the existing membrane, reinstate the
>>>> drainage cells, new screed and tiles. Previous water
>>>> testing confirmed the western main deck area doesn’t
>>>> leak so the membrane should be in good condition. DWRS
>>>> are preparing a quotation for consideration./
>>>>
>>>> //
>>>>
>>>> /Please let me know if you have any questions/
>>>>
>>>> //
>>>>
>>>> /Kind regards,/
>>>>
>>>> //
>>>>
>>>> /Darren Vignes/
>>>>
>>>> *//*
>>>>
>>>> */Darren, can you provide an update on the amended
>>>> quote form DWRS?/*
>>>>
>>>> *//*
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>
>>>> *Patrick Rush*
>>>>
>>>> Regional Community Manager
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *
>>>> t.*(02) 9266 2600
>>>> *d.* (02) 9266 2695
>>>> *e.* prush at stratatitle.com.au
>>>> <mailto:prush at stratatitle.com.au>
>>>> *a.* Shop 6/78-80 Alexander Street, CROWS NEST, NSW 2065
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>>>>
>>>> *From:*Craig Laforest <cscl at optusnet.com.au
>>>> <mailto:cscl at optusnet.com.au>>
>>>> *Sent:*Thursday, 24 January 2019 1:55 PM
>>>> *To:*Patrick Rush <prush at stratatitle.com.au
>>>> <mailto:prush at stratatitle.com.au>>; 'Marquis BFMS'
>>>> <marquis at bfms.com.au
>>>> <mailto:marquis at bfms.com.au>>;ec at 200william.com
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>>>> *Cc:*ec-bounces at 200william.com
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>>>> *Subject:*RE: [200William-EC SP67851] SP 67851 - Update
>>>> on Tiling for Unit 601 to Prevent Further Water Ingress
>>>>
>>>> *This email originated from outside of the organisation.*
>>>>
>>>> Hello Patrick,
>>>>
>>>> I’m certain there must be contractors in Sydney who
>>>> have to work with different height restrictions? Have
>>>> we really sourced them all? I trust that due to the
>>>> amount of time this is taking no further penetration
>>>> occurs into my kitchen or lounge room area from either
>>>> the overhang or the loose tiles on level 7. I’ve been
>>>> extremely patient.
>>>>
>>>> What is the situation with level 7 loose tile repairs?
>>>> Why haven’t they been attended to?
>>>>
>>>> *From:*ec-bounces at 200william.com
>>>> <mailto:ec-bounces at 200william.com>[mailto:ec-bounces at 200william.com]*On
>>>> Behalf Of*Patrick Rush
>>>> *Sent:*Thursday, 24 January 2019 1:42 PM
>>>> *To:*Marquis BFMS;ec at 200william.com
>>>> <mailto:ec at 200william.com>
>>>> *Subject:*Re: [200William-EC SP67851] SP 67851 - Update
>>>> on Tiling for Unit 601 to Prevent Further Water Ingress
>>>>
>>>> Hi Craig,
>>>>
>>>> I have spoken with Darren and he has been attmpeting to
>>>> have a contratcor undertake the repairs to the awning
>>>> which is causing the water ingress with no luck.
>>>>
>>>> Due to height and restrictions on contratcors
>>>> undertaking the repairs it has been difficult to secure
>>>> a contractor.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It is likely that the same contratcor underayking the
>>>> repiars the the façade and the windo2w clenaing can
>>>> undertake these repairs at the same time.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Once approved, Darren will be able to confirm this.
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>
>>>> *Patrick Rush*
>>>>
>>>> Regional Community Manager
>>>>
>>>> <image004.jpg>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *t.*(02) 9266 2600
>>>> *d.* (02) 9266 2695
>>>> *e.* prush at stratatitle.com.au
>>>> <mailto:prush at stratatitle.com.au>
>>>> *a.* Shop 6/78-80 Alexander Street, CROWS NEST, NSW 2065
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> _____________________________________________
>>>> *From:*Craig Laforest <cscl at optusnet.com.au
>>>> <mailto:cscl at optusnet.com.au>>
>>>> *Sent:*Thursday, 24 January 2019 12:25 PM
>>>> *To:*Patrick Rush <prush at stratatitle.com.au
>>>> <mailto:prush at stratatitle.com.au>>; Marquis BFMS
>>>> <marquis at bfms.com.au
>>>> <mailto:marquis at bfms.com.au>>;ec at 200william.com
>>>> <mailto:ec at 200william.com>;ec-bounces at 200william.com
>>>> <mailto:ec-bounces at 200william.com>
>>>> *Subject:*RE: Apartment 601 overhang and lifted tiles
>>>> on level 7 west
>>>>
>>>> *This email originated from outside of the organisation.*
>>>>
>>>> To members of the EC,
>>>>
>>>> Good afternoon.
>>>>
>>>> Would someone on the EC kindly explain why we are
>>>> looking at spending on the cleaning of the eastern
>>>> windows (I’m certain it’s probably in part of the
>>>> budget?) while we are still spending money on the
>>>> repairs to my leaking terrace overhang (which must be
>>>> rectified as part of the Tribunal order) and the
>>>> open/raised tiles above my home, on level 7?
>>>>
>>>> I’ve sent the emails below (dating back to October last
>>>> year) and still haven’t had the courtesy of a reply as
>>>> to when repairs are scheduled!?
>>>>
>>>> I look forward to hearing from you.
>>>>
>>>> Craig Laforest
>>>>
>>>> _____________________________________________
>>>> *From:*Craig Laforest [mailto:cscl at optusnet.com.au]
>>>> *Sent:*Tuesday, 22 January 2019 10:48 AM
>>>> *To:*'prush at stratatitle.com.au
>>>> <mailto:prush at stratatitle.com.au>'; Marquis BFMS
>>>> (marquis at bfms.com.au <mailto:marquis at bfms.com.au>)
>>>> *Subject:*RE: Apartment 601 overhang and lifted tiles
>>>> on level 7 west
>>>>
>>>> Hello Patrick and Darren,
>>>>
>>>> Again, following up on the water problems I am having
>>>> from above my apartment.
>>>>
>>>> Would you please advise me where we are with this
>>>> continuing problem.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Craig Laforest
>>>>
>>>> _____________________________________________
>>>> *From:*Craig Laforest[mailto:cscl at optusnet.com.au]
>>>> <mailto:[mailto:cscl at optusnet.com.au]>
>>>> *Sent:*Tuesday, 8 January 2019 3:59 PM
>>>> *To:*'prush at stratatitle.com.au
>>>> <mailto:prush at stratatitle.com.au>'; Marquis BFMS
>>>> (marquis at bfms.com.au <mailto:marquis at bfms.com.au>)
>>>> *Subject:*Apartment 601 overhang and lifted tiles on
>>>> level 7 west
>>>>
>>>> Hello Patrick,
>>>>
>>>> I sent you the following email on Oct09 with a
>>>> follow-up this afternoon (with attached pix). Would you
>>>> please advise an update asap and also on the level 7
>>>> west tiles which are still to be repaired.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you
>>>>
>>>> Craig Laforest
>>>>
>>>> _____________________________________________
>>>> *From:*Craig Laforest[mailto:cscl at optusnet.com.au]
>>>> <mailto:[mailto:cscl at optusnet.com.au]>
>>>> *Sent:*Tuesday, 9 October 2018 8:28 AM
>>>> *To:*Marquis BFMS (marquis at bfms.com.au
>>>> <mailto:marquis at bfms.com.au>)
>>>> *Cc:*'prush at stratatitle.com.au
>>>> <mailto:prush at stratatitle.com.au>'
>>>> *Subject:*Apartment 601 overhang and lifted tiles on
>>>> level 7 west
>>>>
>>>> Good morning Darren,
>>>>
>>>> Do you have any idea please when the necessary work
>>>> will be carried out by the contractor who visited my
>>>> home about 2 weeks ago and gave his advice on the water
>>>> dripping from the steel overhang?
>>>>
>>>> Also, the lifted tiles on level 7 west – please advise
>>>> where we are with those?
>>>>
>>>> Thank you and regards,
>>>>
>>>> Craig Laforest
>>>>
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