[200William-EC SP67851] SP 67851 - URGENT Tribunal Order for Water Penetration in Unit 601 - CRAIG LAFOREST VS BODY CORPORATE STRATA PLAN 67851
Lee Carroll
lee.carroll at costinroe.com.au
Fri Mar 18 10:34:41 AEDT 2016
Morning Patrick,
As this is an external contractor I will have to seek approval from our directors for the payment. As a quicker option I would suggest applying a coloured dye along the northern edge of the terrace and running a hose on it. If the water droplets take on the colour of the dye then it is clear that the water is coming from the terrace.
Best Regards,
Lee Carroll
Senior Engineer (Remedial/Forensic) - MEng MIEAust
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From: Patrick Rush [mailto:prush at stratatitle.com.au]
Sent: Friday, 18 March 2016 10:27 AM
To: Lee Carroll
Cc: 'ec at 200william.com'; 'Info BFMS'
Subject: RE: SP 67851 - URGENT Tribunal Order for Water Penetration in Unit 601 - CRAIG LAFOREST VS BODY CORPORATE STRATA PLAN 67851
Good Morning Lee,
We are still awaiting a response from you as per the below emails from Patrick. Please provide a response on the matter as soon as possible.
Kind regards,
Katie Salim on behalf of
Patrick Rush
Strata Manager
Phone: (02) 9266 2600 | Email: prush at stratatitle.com.au<mailto:northshore at stratatitle.com.au> | Address: PO Box 2727, Taren Point, NSW 2229
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From: Patrick Rush
Sent: Wednesday, 16 March 2016 10:32 AM
To: 'lee.carroll at costinroe.com.au'
Cc: 'ec at 200william.com'; 'Info BFMS'
Subject: RE: SP 67851 - URGENT Tribunal Order for Water Penetration in Unit 601 - CRAIG LAFOREST VS BODY CORPORATE STRATA PLAN 67851
Importance: High
Hi Lee,
I have yet to receive a response on the below and the Owner of unit 601 is keen resolve the matter.
Please urgently respond to the Committee and Owners Corporations request below so that we can proceed with the water testing as required to locate the source of the water ingress?
**Please be advised that I will be on leave from 5:00pm Wednesday 16th March 2016 to 9:00am Monday 4th April 2016**
Katie Salim will be a Strata Manager looking after my portfolio while I'm on leave. Please email me as normal and Katie will respond accordingly.
Kind regards,
Patrick Rush
Strata Manager
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From: Patrick Rush
Sent: Thursday, 10 March 2016 4:06 PM
To: lee.carroll at costinroe.com.au<mailto:lee.carroll at costinroe.com.au>
Cc: ec at 200william.com<mailto:ec at 200william.com>; 'Info BFMS'
Subject: RE: SP 67851 - URGENT Tribunal Order for Water Penetration in Unit 601 - CRAIG LAFOREST VS BODY CORPORATE STRATA PLAN 67851
Importance: High
Hi Lee,
I have been requested to write to you and seek agreement that the EFVM water testing to the are as per the attached quote be carried out at no further cost to the Owners Corporation.,
The reason for this request is the Owners Corporation are of the view that the previous report complied by yourself was incorrect and has caused the matter to darg on as well as repairs being carried out that were not necessarily would solve the issue as per the Orders from NCAT (Fair Trading NSW).
Can you please advise if you and Strata Engineering Solutions are happy to carry out such testing provide the results at no extra cost to the Owners Corporation and as requested?
Please feel free to call me if you would like to discuss the matter further.
Kind regards,
Patrick Rush
Strata Manager
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From: ec-bounces at 200william.com<mailto:ec-bounces at 200william.com> [mailto:ec-bounces at 200william.com] On Behalf Of Matt Perkins
Sent: Friday, 26 February 2016 2:48 PM
To: ec at 200william.com<mailto:ec at 200william.com>; lee.carroll at costinroe.com.au<mailto:lee.carroll at costinroe.com.au>
Subject: Re: [200William-EC SP67851] SP 67851 - URGENT Tribunal Order for Water Penetration in Unit 601 - CRAIG LAFOREST VS BODY CORPORATE STRATA PLAN 67851
Hi Patrick,
It appears from Lee's report that the original advise to paint the surface was incorrect as the source of water was not correctly identified. As a result we will need to not only correctly identify the source of the water but repaint the surface once the true source has been found. I note that the report sites the building manager's report that guided the engineer. I find this a little puzzling as is it not the engineers roll to test the building manages assumptions.
We have a number of issues here.
Firstly. There is no money in the budget to investigate this problem further even though we have been ordered by the tribunal to do so.
Secondly. Is there any recourse through PI to recoup any of the money spent due to the incorrect advice.
Finally. Is there a mechanism where we can ask the tribunal to re-consider, or extend the time frame which we have to comply given the budget constraints.
Other then one of the options above I see no other option less then to call a EGM to vote on a Special Levy to fix the water leaks for Apartment 601 once true estimates have been gathered.
Furthermore what would prevent every apartment in the building requesting this type of water staining be eliminated from their balcony. Every balcony I have been on in the building including my own has this staining. I know in my case it's from the above apartment's aluminum railing which is full of water slowly dripping through. Fixing these issues for the entire building could add up to many hundreds of thousands of dollars where the problem is only cosmetic and it is to appease one person.
We are looking to guidance from STM here. So far professional advice has only resulted in more and more money spent with zero gain to the strata and more frustration to the owner of 601.
In the mean time i suggest we go ahead with the testing as advised.
Matt.
On 26/02/2016 2:13 PM, Lee Carroll wrote:
CO12765.00
Hi Patrick/William,
Please find attached our report subsequent to the site inspection on the 19th February.
Should you have any queries please don't hesitate to contact me.
Best Regards,
Lee Carroll
Senior Engineer (Remedial/Forensic)
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From: Patrick Rush [mailto:prush at stratatitle.com.au]
Sent: Tuesday, 16 February 2016 5:18 PM
To: 'Info BFMS'; Lee Carroll
Cc: George Ziri; 'ec at 200william.com<mailto:ec at 200william.com>'
Subject: RE: SP 67851 - URGENT Tribunal Order for Water Penetration in Unit 601 - CRAIG LAFOREST VS BODY CORPORATE STRATA PLAN 67851
Hi William,
Craig, the Owner of unit 601 has contacted me and advised that he has returned from overseas and is happy to be contacted to organise the inspection as requested by the Committee.
Can you please organise and I will advsie Craig you will be in touch to organise?
Kind regards,
Patrick Rush
Strata Manager
Phone: (02) 9266 2600 | Email: prush at stratatitle.com.au<mailto:prush at stratatitle.com.au> | Address: PO Box 2727, Taren Point, NSW 2229
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From: Info BFMS [mailto:info at bfms.com.au]<mailto:[mailto:info at bfms.com.au]>
Sent: Friday, 12 February 2016 9:17 AM
To: Patrick Rush; 'lee.carroll at costinroe.com.au<mailto:lee.carroll at costinroe.com.au>'
Cc: George Ziri; 'ec at 200william.com<mailto:ec at 200william.com>'
Subject: RE: SP 67851 - URGENT Tribunal Order for Water Penetration in Unit 601 - CRAIG LAFOREST VS BODY CORPORATE STRATA PLAN 67851
Hi Lee
FYI
The lot owner Craig is currently away and returning next week.
For any further queries, please contact our office.
Kind regards,
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From: Patrick Rush [mailto:prush at stratatitle.com.au]
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Cc: George Ziri <georgeziri at bfms.com.au<mailto:georgeziri at bfms.com.au>>; Info BFMS <info at bfms.com.au<mailto:info at bfms.com.au>>; 'ec at 200william.com<mailto:ec at 200william.com>' <ec at 200william.com<mailto:ec at 200william.com>>
Subject: RE: SP 67851 - URGENT Tribunal Order for Water Penetration in Unit 601 - CRAIG LAFOREST VS BODY CORPORATE STRATA PLAN 67851
Importance: High
Hi Lee,
It has been requested by the Committee that you carry out a further inspection of unit 601 in relation to the below further complaints and attached images.
Can you please organise this inspection with the Building Manager and Craig, the Owner of unit 601 and advsie when you will be completing the inspection once organised.
Please provide a detailed report based on your inspection?
Kind regards,
Patrick Rush
Strata Manager
Phone: (02) 9266 2600 | Email: prush at stratatitle.com.au<mailto:prush at stratatitle.com.au> | Address: PO Box 2727, Taren Point, NSW 2229
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From: Patrick Rush
Sent: Thursday, 28 January 2016 1:43 PM
To: ec at 200william.com<mailto:ec at 200william.com>
Cc: George Ziri; Info BFMS
Subject: RE: SP 67851 - URGENT Tribunal Order for Water Penetration in Unit 601 - CRAIG LAFOREST VS BODY CORPORATE STRATA PLAN 67851
Importance: High
Dear Committee,
Please see the below email from Craig, the Owner of Unit 601 in relation to the NCAT (Tribunal) Orders for repairs to the areas causing water ingress to the balcony area and other associated maintenance items.
Please see below answers in red from Craig in relation to Lee from Cost In Roe's response to attending site to inspect.
Craig is obviously upset with the progress and feels the matter and repairs undertaken late in 2015 have made the issue worse and require urgent attention.
Craig's has asked me to seek some direction from you about this matter and would like for you to advise the Building Manager, myself and the Engineers to attend to the matter urgently to have further repairs undertaken to stop further water leaking.
Please advise on the above urgently?
Kind regards,
Patrick Rush
Strata Manager
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From: Lee Carroll [mailto:lee.carroll at costinroe.com.au]
Sent: Thursday, 21 January 2016 5:03 PM
To: Info BFMS
Cc: George Ziri; ec at 200william.com<mailto:ec at 200william.com>; Patrick Rush; Catherine Plane; Wayne E. Costin
Subject: 12765.00 160121 RE: SP 67851 - URGENT Tribunal Order for Water Penetration in Unit 601 - CRAIG LAFOREST VS BODY CORPORATE STRATA PLAN 67851
Hi William,
I have attached some photographs taken on the 22nd December 2015 on my last site visit.
Whilst the bubbling is worse in your photographs, it is not dramatically so.
The area of bubbling and water dropping onto my terrace is 3 times more than prior to the works being carried out recently by the contractor. In addition, the water has a dirt/rust colour which is staining everywhere below the overhang. The water is dropping through at a considerable rate 24/7 regardless of whether there is any rain. This has been the same problem for the last 8 years.
I would suggest we wait a bit longer before getting the painter back to patch the effected areas.
The area doesn't need patching - we need to expose where the water is coming from/through ie its source.
The bubbling and efflorescence appears to be mostly confined the slab edge which is in keeping with my theory.
The rust staining on the paint bubbles is concerning as it indicates corrosion of reinforcement in the concrete.
Again, why would we patch if rust staining is coming through?! Patching cannot be completed quickly enough from the amount of water which is forcing its way through. As is currently happening patching only sends the water in a different direction within the wall frame and subsequently water drops through from a new area.
As discussed we had a job in Mosman awhile back with a similar issue. The planter box has seven layers of membrane installed and yet the water persisted. It turned out to be coming under the planter box from the terrace area. There may be a similar issue here, although in my opinion there would should also be water penetration visible on the soffit of the slab as the slab edge if this was the case.
It should be noted that this is not water penetration into Unit 601. It is merely
(merely??) water dripping off the slab edge over the balcony, which would be expected anyway, at least when it rains. Again, the water drips constantly 24/7 even when there is NO rain. The issue is the efflorescence and rust staining on the tiles and furniture.
I have confirmed in previous email correspondence to the Strata Manager that I will take the Body Corporate once taken to Tribunal. Unless I receive confirmation by February 16 that another way of handling this matter is to take place, I will follow through with the Tribunal.
I have been advised by the representatives of the Tribunal that severe penalties will be charged to the owners if the original order by the Tribunal is not once and for all carried out.
Craig Laforest
Best Regards,
Lee Carroll
Senior Engineer (Remedial/Forensic)
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From: Info BFMS [mailto:info at bfms.com.au]
Sent: Thursday, 21 January 2016 2:49 PM
To: Lee Carroll
Cc: George Ziri; ec at 200william.com<mailto:ec at 200william.com>; 'Patrick Rush'
Subject: RE: SP 67851 - URGENT Tribunal Order for Water Penetration in Unit 601 - CRAIG LAFOREST VS BODY CORPORATE STRATA PLAN 67851
Hi Lee
As discussed, please see attached photos of the water penetration in apartment 601 for your reference.
Please advise.
For any further queries, please contact our office.
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