[200William-EC SP67851] SP 67851 - Engineers Report for Water Issues for Unit 601 & 602

Matt Perkins matt at spectrum.com.au
Wed Jul 6 14:02:04 AEST 2016


Im pretty confident it's water. ULP would smell. It doesn't.  It's not 
from the tank. It's just using the cavity created by the tank as a water 
course from the overspray of the wet walls.

Matt



On 6/07/2016 1:37 PM, Marquis BFMS wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> We may have another cheaper option to confirm if the tank is the 
> cause. We could have a sample of the pooling water tested by an enviro 
> lab, approx. cost $300 - $400. If you think this is an option I can 
> look into it further.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> From: MQ 302 - Matt Perkins
> Date: Wednesday, 6 July 2016 1:30 pm
> To: Patrick Rush - Strata Title, "ec at 200william.com 
> <mailto:ec at 200william.com>", 75Crown
> Subject: Re: SP 67851 - Engineers Report for Water Issues for Unit 601 
> & 602
>
> I think that's a bit of a stretch. It's a chicken and egg thing. If 
> the tank wasn't there the ramp would have been constructed 
> differently. It would have been pored as part of the slab instead of 
> on top.  The problem exists because of the construction technique used 
> as a knock on to the requirement for the tank.  200 William was built 
> with Avis as a partner as they occupied the site prior to the 
> buildings construction.
>
> But it's a long bow to say it's caused by the tank.   If that's the 
> reason your thinking of getting the engineer it would be a stretch. Im 
> still of the belief we can get a couple of quotes from plumbers and 
> cut in a drain fixing the problem for ever with the least cost to the 
> strata.
>
>
> Matt.
>
>
>
>
>  6/07/2016 1:11 PM, Patrick Rush wrote:
>>
>> Hi Matt,
>>
>>
>> I think we need to get clarification form an Engineer to what is in 
>> fact causing the water pooling and if this is due to the commercial 
>> tank that is attributing to the water then the Owners Corporation 
>> approach the commercial strata for rectification.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> *Patrick Rush*
>>
>> Strata Manager
>>
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>> Box 2727, Taren Point, NSW 2229
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>> *From:*Matt Perkins [mailto:matt at spectrum.com.au]
>> *Sent:* Monday, 4 July 2016 8:05 PM
>> *To:* Patrick Rush; ec at 200william.com; Marquis BFMS
>> *Subject:* Re: SP 67851 - Engineers Report for Water Issues for Unit 
>> 601 & 602
>>
>> Hi Patrick,
>>  Thanks for the clarification.  I have marked the direction of water 
>> flow on the strata plan.
>>
>> The water is flowing under the ramp in a line roughly adjacent to the 
>> curved line between the ramp and the direction of water flow.
>> The tank is located in the box as located by the Commercial strata 
>> plan number. It's not the tank itself that causes the water to flow 
>> that way but the design of the ramp Which is setup in such a way 
>> which would not be needed if not for the tank.
>>
>> Im guessing the long and the sort of it is we are responsible for 
>> cutting in the drain. Darren The key info I think we need is the 
>> values of the quotes for the drain so we can decided if we have the 
>> budget to pay for it's install or if a levy needs to be raised.  if a 
>> levy needs to be raised. I think it would be best to get the 
>> restorations to the water leak's from level7 to 6 balcony's costs 
>> into the same EGM. So we only need to call one EGM.
>>
>> Darren what is your estimate for when you will have the quotes 
>> available for the drain.
>>
>> Matt
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 4/07/2016 5:16 PM, Patrick Rush wrote:
>>
>>     Hi Matt & Fellow Committee Members,
>>
>>
>>     Basement Level 4 is in fact the Owners SP 67851’s property with
>>     easements as per the attached strata plan that allow SP 67850 to
>>     use parts of the areas. There are no exclusive use By Laws.
>>
>>
>>     Depending on what the easements say and where the fuel tank is
>>     located will determine who is responsible for the repairs and
>>     maintenance.
>>
>>
>>     It will not likely be the BMC but either the commercial or
>>     residential strata that are required to undertake the repairs.
>>
>>     Darren, can you please mark on the attached strata plan exactly
>>     where the fuel tank is located and I can then review along with
>>     the easement and advise who is responsible for the repair s and
>>     maintenance of the leaking water if in fact this is coming from
>>     the fuel tank. Can you also confirm if water is leaking from this
>>     fuel tank and causing the pooling water in Basement Level 4?
>>
>>     Kind regards,
>>
>>     *Patrick Rush*
>>
>>     Strata Manager
>>
>>     Phone:(02) 9266 2600 | Email:prush at stratatitle.com.au |
>>     Address:PO Box 2727, Taren Point, NSW 2229
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>>     *From:*ec-bounces at 200william.com
>>     <mailto:ec-bounces at 200william.com>
>>     [mailto:ec-bounces at 200william.com] *On Behalf Of *Matt Perkins
>>     *Sent:* Friday, 1 July 2016 6:17 PM
>>     *To:* Ed Sainsbury
>>     *Cc:* ec at 200william.com <mailto:ec at 200william.com>; Marquis BFMS
>>     *Subject:* Re: [200William-EC SP67851] SP 67851 - Engineers
>>     Report for Water Issues for Unit 601 & 602
>>
>>     Sorry for my short reply before I was out and about and didn't
>>     want to see someone exposing a 10,000l  fuel tank with a metal
>>     crowbar.
>>
>>     The matter with the water in the carpark has been determined by
>>     Darren and the contractors to be water from the wet wall Seeping
>>     along under where the ramp was poured over the slab.  In essence
>>     it's bad building design.
>>
>>     Two solutions have been offered. Cutting a drain and / or
>>     cleaning the wet wall Pitts and walls  in that area so water can
>>     more easily drain to the sump.
>>
>>     The strata manager has determined that level p4 is residential
>>     strata as there are no commercial lots there. However as Avis
>>     maintain an exclusive use bylaw for the fuel tank which is part
>>     of the commercial strata. Not only is the tank located on level
>>     p4 but it's design is partly responsible for the water under the
>>     ramp. Therefor I believe the strata manager is in error.
>>
>>     I believe the water in the car park is a bmc issue and the
>>     solution should be to cut in a drain to the sump. An expense
>>     which should be born by the bmc.
>>
>>     I will ask the strata manager to put the question to the bmc. I'm
>>     sure Andrews response will be to deny the request.
>>
>>     Where we go from there is uncertain. We could pay for it
>>     ourselves with a special levy or we could perhaps find a way to
>>     compel the bmc to fix the issue.
>>
>>     Darren is obtaining quotes for the fix.
>>
>>     -- 
>>
>>     /* Matt Perkins
>>
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>>     On 1 Jul 2016, at 4:50 PM, Ed Sainsbury
>>     <edsainsbury at ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>         Dear EC,
>>
>>         I went up to Craig's apartment to have him show me the water
>>         issues, so I could better understand them. I can confirm that
>>         there is still water coming down behind the exterior paint
>>         from the roof area on the western and north-western sides. It
>>         is creating pockets of pooled water under the exterior paint.
>>
>>         I was also shown the water polling in the basement. I am
>>         thinking that it might be coming from pumps or other, that
>>         are under the plates on the ramp down to P4. I was wondering
>>         if anyone k owe whether the strata has steel rods (like a
>>         crow bar) that are used to lift the concrete plates, so that
>>         we could look in to see if they are leaking.
>>
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>>
>>         Regards,
>>
>>         Edward
>>
>>         Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>>         On 1 Jul 2016, at 12:51 PM, Robin Patrick
>>         <robin.j.patrick at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>             I agree to proceed with the recommendations.
>>
>>             Thanks
>>
>>             RJP
>>
>>             On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 5:05 PM, Patrick Rush
>>             <prush at stratatitle.com.au
>>             <mailto:prush at stratatitle.com.au>> wrote:
>>
>>             Dear Committee,
>>
>>
>>             Please see attached a copy of the report from Strata
>>             Engineering Solutions.
>>
>>             Please review and if you agree with the recommendations
>>             on Page 2 & 3 I will request the Engineer to proceed?
>>
>>             If agreed, I believe it may also be best to have Strata
>>             Engineering Solutions attend and inspect the pooling
>>             issue in the basement car park currently being experienced.
>>
>>             Both these items will be at a charge, while the attached
>>             report was carried out at no charge.
>>
>>             Please advise on Teh above?
>>
>>             Kind regards,
>>
>>             *Patrick Rush*
>>
>>             Strata Manager
>>
>>             Phone:(02) 9266 2600 | Email:prush at stratatitle.com.au
>>             <mailto:northshore at stratatitle.com.au> | Address:PO Box
>>             2727, Taren Point, NSW 2229
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>> /* Matt Perkins
>>          Direct 1300 137 379        Spectrum Networks Ptd. Ltd.
>>          Office 1300 133 299matt at spectrum.com.au <mailto:matt at spectrum.com.au>  
>>                                     Level 6, 350 George Street Sydney 2000
>>          Spectrum Networks is a member of the Communications Alliance & TIO
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> /* Matt Perkins
>          Direct 1300 137 379        Spectrum Networks Ptd. Ltd.
>          Office 1300 133 299matt at spectrum.com.au  
>                                     Level 6, 350 George Street Sydney 2000
>          Spectrum Networks is a member of the Communications Alliance & TIO
> */


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/* Matt Perkins
         Direct 1300 137 379        Spectrum Networks Ptd. Ltd.
         Office 1300 133 299        matt at spectrum.com.au
                                    Level 6, 350 George Street Sydney 2000
         Spectrum Networks is a member of the Communications Alliance & TIO
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