[200William-EC] Key return
Rob Willett
rob at robadda.com
Sun Sep 1 12:33:51 EST 2013
George,
Are you able to confirm if the keys were returned to you Saturday?
Thanks
On 01/09/2013, at 5:23 AM, Matt Perkins <matt at spectrum.com.au> wrote:
> There at it again. Slamming fire escape doors on every level. George If you happen to be looking at the video again between 6:00 and 6:15 on the 1st
>
> matt.
>
> On 30/08/13 11:53 AM, Rob Willett wrote:
>> Hi Di, if only we could catch him in the act, this is becoming crazy.
>>
>> So there is on one else who can access Level 6 in the building right? And the pink stuff wasn't the at 930 pm? But was at 1130 pm?
>>
>> I think lets get that camera in ASAP, you can do it as a private resident. Let me go back to my room and I will call you on your landline through Skype
>>
>> I also think this should be reported and logged with the Police.
>>
>> Regards Rob
>>
>>
>>
>> On 30/08/2013, at 8:45, Diana Dennison <didee.cd at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> This morning my front door has been splattered and smeared with some pinkish muck. This happened after Phil came down from checking the noise on the top level (a workman) at around 9:30. We noticed it at 11:30. In between I heard my neighbour muttering in the lobby before going down in the lift (ascertained by the 'Ping"). Phil is photographing it now.
>>>
>>> regards,
>>>
>>> Di
>>>
>>>
>>> On 30 August 2013 11:15, Rob Willett <rob at robadda.com> wrote:
>>> No problem Di, I just know that if I was living in the building, any building, and these events were occurring around me, I'd want to be protected as ell. Thanks for the encouragement
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Rob
>>>
>>> On 30/08/2013, at 8:50, Diana Dennison <didee.cd at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Rob,
>>>>
>>>> Your letter looks fine and as it has Maxine's approval, it also has mine!
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for all the effort you are putting into this whilst busy abroad.
>>>>
>>>> regards,
>>>>
>>>> Di
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 30 August 2013 09:50, Andrew James <Andrew.James at lifehouserpa.org.au> wrote:
>>>> Hi Rob,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sorry for the delay in replying. I am happy for you to send this email and am supportive of the action to retrieve the keys. If Craig refuses to hand them back then I also think we should immediately change ALL the locks opened by these keys. Craig should not have access to any plant areas or fire doors on other floors.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Many thanks for taking this on.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Andrew James
>>>> Director of Pharmacy
>>>>
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>>>> Camperdown NSW 2050
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>>>>
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>>>> *hWK4nY*
>>>> From: Rob Willett [mailto:rob at robadda.com]
>>>> Sent: Thursday, 29 August 2013 8:14 PM
>>>> To: Barney Kitay; Matt Perkins; Diana Dennison; Andrew James; Dave Petschack; Rowan Holloway; George Ziri
>>>> Cc: Maxine Wickey; Brook Beves
>>>> Subject: Email to Craig fro your approval before I send
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the feedback everyone, I appreciate it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I also understand sand respect your point of view Barney, I think you're right mate.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The suggestion has come through that we call an EGM asap. Unfortunately if it is held in September ( and I agree it needs to be ) I will not be able to attend as I will be in SE Asia until the first week of October.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Having said that, I really want to be there so Dave has agreed, if everyone is cool, to hold the meeting at the office of One For All in Chippendale ( just near Central Station ) that way I call in on Skype and be part of the meeting. I think i need to be after everything that has gone on!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In the meantime, I am planning on sending this email below to Craig in response to his refusing to hand back the keys. Would you all mind just checking it and make sure you are OK with it. I have taken all the emotion out and kept to the facts. Let me know if you are OK for me to send or any changes you might recommend.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks again all.
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Craig,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your detailed reply regarding the return of the keys. This issue is you have master keys without approval. That's it in essence.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We will be sending you a letter of demand to return the keys.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It is up to the BMC and then the EC to decide who is best suited to hold the master keys. We have a very good Building Manager and that is part of his responsibility. Unfortunately individuals including me, do not have the right to a master key. If the EC vote accordingly that you can hold a key, then so be it. And if they don't agree, you have no choice but to return the keys.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We need to have an Extraordinary General Meeting in order to resolve these issues. There are a few other issues we need to resolve as well that relate to the building. You have raised the matters yourself such as the elevators breaking down, the noise emanating from the stairwells at all hours, the banging noises emanating from somewhere in the building at all hours, the vandalism to door handles and attempted break-ins. The building is being monitored so we can see where that leads us.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In relation to the opening and holding open the fire doors, it is not only dangerous, it is illegal. If you read the NSW Fire Service code, it is highly dangerous and highly illegal. It is not your responsibility to have to worry about it. George Ziri has this situation in hand and is more than capable of dealing with it. So we ask you to please not do it again as it puts everyone's safety in danger.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 29/08/2013, at 12:39 PM, Barney Kitay <barnet at kitays.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Matt / George,
>>>>
>>>> do the apartment keys open the fire doors (on that floor)? or is there a separate key?
>>>>
>>>> having never lived there it has never been an issue, and nor has it been for my tenants. but it seems like something we should clarify now.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Barney
>>>>
>>>> =============================================================================
>>>>
>>>> On 29-08-2013 15:17, Matt Perkins wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi All,
>>>> Yesterday the fire doors in the building on every level were propped open. This is a very dangerous situation the fire escape system is designed as a safe haven from smoke and area where residents can go to escape the building in the case of a fire. I know the lifts were not working but this is not an excuse. Residents have keys to each fire door which they can use in the event of a lift breaking down. But to prop a door open is a breach of safety and fire standards and must not reoccur.
>>>>
>>>> I quote from the NSW fire & Rescue Web site . http://www.fire.nsw.gov.au/page.php?id=293
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <ifcidhfh.png>
>>>>
>>>> On top of this our building is located in Kings Cross. Opening all the doors on every level will defeat the building security completely. What if someone just walked in and layed in wait in a lift lobby for some one to come home. It is unacceptable to open the building completely like this. People have keys. If they do not carry there key a reminder should be sent around that in case of lift problems your key will need to be carried so as you can access the fire stairs.
>>>>
>>>> This is not the first time someone has interfered with the safe operation of the fire escape. We would be negligent if we allowed this to continue.
>>>>
>>>> Matt.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 29/08/13 11:27 AM, Maxine Wickey wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear Committee,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Just to clarify for you in relation to removing an EC member it must be done at an Extraordinary General Meeting and it would be by Special Resolution meaning no more that 25% of unit entitlements vote against the motion for it to be resolved. There would be no need for court – he could dispute a resolution through Fair Trading & the CTTT but that is if he decides he wants to go down that path.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In relation to the key he does not have a right to keep the key if the owners corporation, i.e. the executive committee do not approve of him holding a master key.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Maxine Wickey
>>>>
>>>> Strata Manager
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> From: Barney Kitay [mailto:barnet at kitays.com]
>>>> Sent: Thursday, 29 August 2013 11:16 AM
>>>> To: Matt Perkins
>>>> Cc: Diana Dennison; Brook Beves; Rob Willett; Andrew James; Dave Petschack; Rowan Holloway; George Ziri; Maxine Wickey
>>>> Subject: Re: Situation critical
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> i thought George's request for the key would resolve this problem.
>>>>
>>>> Rob, i understand you are hesitant to go into detail about what has taken place, but at some stage we need to know this. and sooner rather than later. i am also not keen to be forced to undertake changing the locks unless we really need to.
>>>>
>>>> i also believe we need to understand the "sudden" need for Craig to have a master key. are these issues he seems to be resolving real and relevant? is the building better off having someone on-site to attend to issues in the 1st instance? and are these outweighed by the "rogue activities"? we need to evaluate things coolly.
>>>>
>>>> i would also like to say that i find Craig's last email this morning where he refuses to hand over a master key unacceptable. he is NOT the last decider.
>>>>
>>>> i am also concerned about Craig litigating against the body corporate if we try to remove him. i believe he has the personality that will try take us on to bend to his will. we really don't need the cost of solicitors to redirect funds from things that are needed. we may be better off freezing him out. he is a lone voice after all.
>>>>
>>>> we should also convene an urgent EC meeting to resolve this, sooner rather than wait 'til October.
>>>>
>>>> In summary, if we feel it is important to only give Craig access to the plant room, then i support this need. lets change the locks to a new master and leave his key to only open the plant room. this will however require changing 10-15 locks?...
>>>>
>>>> Barney
>>>>
>>>> ====================================================================
>>>>
>>>> On 28-08-2013 19:00, Matt Perkins wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Di,
>>>> Although im flattered. I don't think im the best choice for a number of reasons. There is a master key with Avis and contractors etc can sign them out if needed. I have done that myself (with Georges permission) the time i fixed the foxtel. I also note that I have a current professional indemnity policy and public liability policy totaling $20 million which should be a requirement for any access to the plant room. An after hours emergency rightly should be handled by George that's why we pay him. An alternative option may be to put a key to the plant room only (not a master) in a key safe with a combination which George could give out as required. (lift people do this all the time)
>>>>
>>>> I dont think there is a need for anyone other then George and Avis to have a master key.
>>>> A requirement to enter to the plant room should be sign the key register and provide copy's of
>>>> work safe method
>>>> PI
>>>> Public Liability.
>>>>
>>>> As in sign with standard business practice.
>>>>
>>>> Matt.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 28/08/13 6:17 PM, Diana Dennison wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Craig has a lady guest with him at the moment so may not even have read the email. She has been there for some time and as the lifts aren't working, we all walked up the fire stairs together and Craig carried half my shopping!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I would give him a chance to respond before changing the locks. He is certainly going to say that neither George nor Rob live onsite and there needs to be someone onsite with a key. We could vote for Matt to be that person.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> regards,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Di
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 28 August 2013 18:05, Brook Beves <brookbeves at bigpond.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear Rob
>>>>
>>>> I am very concerned at having read your email and the serious allegations
>>>> made against Craig and I note your comments that you have direct evidence
>>>> concerning these matters.
>>>>
>>>> If your evidence is of a criminal nature, which could jeopardize the safety
>>>> and well being of occupants within the building then the matter should be
>>>> referred to the police immediately.
>>>>
>>>> I must say from my point of view that I have had nothing to do with Craig
>>>> other than to exchange pleasantries should we pass in the common areas of
>>>> the building, however, I find it extraordinary that someone, particularly an
>>>> occupant, would purposefully damage the building and their property. In
>>>> Craig's case it is the largest, and I would think most prestigious unit
>>>> within the building.
>>>>
>>>> However, if Craig is in possession of a master key to the building and other
>>>> restricted areas, and he is lawfully not entitled to possess that key, it
>>>> must be returned immediately.
>>>>
>>>> In this regard I note your earlier email today to Craig requesting the
>>>> return of the key, and in view of the fact that has been no response
>>>> forthcoming, YOU HAVE MY APPROVAL to change of the locks immediately.
>>>>
>>>> I am interstate at the moment and will not be back in Sydney until next
>>>> Monday evening 2nd September, however, please keep me informed of your
>>>> collective thoughts.
>>>>
>>>> Many thanks
>>>> Brook
>>>> Unit 402
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Rob Willett [mailto:rob at robadda.com]
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, 28 August 2013 4:42 PM
>>>> To: Barney Kitay; Diana Dennison; Andrew James; brookbeves at bigpond.com; Dave
>>>> Petschack; Matt Perkins; Rowan Holloway; Rob Willett
>>>> Cc: George Ziri; Maxine Wickey
>>>> Subject: Situation critical
>>>>
>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>
>>>> I write this to you as the EC. I apologise in advance for writing such a
>>>> heavy duty email, but once you read through the details you will hopefully
>>>> understand my reasoning and more importantly, the safety and well being of
>>>> fellow EC members and residents that I am seeking.
>>>>
>>>> I also need to let you know that this email has not been sent to Craig as it
>>>> concerns his behaviour over the past few months so I ask you that this email
>>>> be kept between us. I do apologise for making this a bit political but I
>>>> trust you will understand.
>>>>
>>>> As Chair of the EC and as your representative on the BMC I have become aware
>>>> over the past few weeks of some seriously and potentially dangerous, even
>>>> possibly criminal behaviour by Craig LaForest. Obviously, too make this
>>>> statement is big but I have no choice to advise you all and to seek your
>>>> approval in an immediate action I think we need to undertake.
>>>>
>>>> The information has been given to me by various sources and without going
>>>> into specifics for now it involves deliberate sabotage of the building. It
>>>> includes possible criminal damage as well as verbal threats to other tenants
>>>> of the building. Please trust me in good faith on this in terms of the
>>>> detail. I will detail further at the EC meeting in October.
>>>>
>>>> Simply put, Craig has a master key to the building without our approval.
>>>> Since the key has been in his possession a lot of the troubles have occurred
>>>> in the building. We have direct evidence that Craig is involved. Obviously
>>>> his is a serious allegation. But some of the residents have expressed
>>>> concern for their individual safety and that of their friends and families.
>>>>
>>>> You will have by now seen that I sent an email to Craig, copied to you all,
>>>> requesting he return the keys immediately. At this point in time he has not
>>>> responded. He is not going to give them back willingly and from my ( and
>>>> others ) point of view, this represents a serious safety issue.
>>>>
>>>> Therefore, I am seeking your approval to give George Ziri approval to
>>>> immediately change the locks where required to stop access to the plant room
>>>> and any other master key access for Craig. There will of course be a cost
>>>> involved. I am sure there will also be a reaction from Craig, but I feel
>>>> this is the quickest form of action we can take to ensure the safety of all
>>>> residents.
>>>>
>>>> Moving forward, I, as Chair and a non- resident ( ie; my immediate safety
>>>> not at risk ) am willing to tackle this issue with Craig head on at the next
>>>> meeting scheduled for October 10. With your approval of course. We have to
>>>> end the problems, the damage, the threats from this individual and I plan on
>>>> moving a motion that he be removed from the EC in the first instance.
>>>>
>>>> Again, I sincerely apologise for you having to endure an email of this
>>>> nature, none of us want it or like it ( or need .it ) but as the EC we have
>>>> the responsibility to ensure the safety and well being of all the residents.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If any of you have any objections to the way I am handling this, PLEASE,
>>>> feel free to say so. I am very thick skinned. I would also welcome another
>>>> approach if anyone has any ideas.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your time, please let me know if you approve the immediate cost
>>>> of replacing locks.
>>>>
>>>> Many thanks
>>>>
>>>> Rob
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> Kind Regards
>>>>
>>>> Barney
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