[200William-EC] MARQUIS - NEW YEARS EVE SECURITY

Fri Jan 11 19:10:55 EST 2013

Hello all,

Based on the fact that we were encountering many drunken visitors/tenants
abusing level 7 about four years ago, the committee all agreed to prohibit
alcohol consumption up on this level and we would restrict the times level 7
could be used.  Notices are posted at each door advising visitors of this
(which includes not flicking cigarette butts over the edge).

Sorry George, but security should do a great job every time, not 'generally
a satisfactory job.'  Matt advised everyone about the fire he had on his
balcony from the NYE prior to this last one.  I have always stated that I
get cigarette butts and empty cans on my terrace every year.

Why are we taking a risk with this terrace for one night??  The people who
attend are generally from outside the building and don't give a damn about
liability and the ramifications of their actions.  George, if one of the
security guys has been working level 7 since 2005, why didn't he react to
the fact that there was no final guest list name and make sure there was
someone posted at the main entrance.  There was no one checking who was
coming in and out of the building.  If he has been 'working' with us since
2005, why didn't he realize (after 7 years!!!) that there is a notice posted
outside on level 7 which states no cigarette butts are to be flicked.  I had
a friend on my balcony who politely yelled up to the culprits on level 7,
when the first of the butts came down on....only to be showered with more!!!

Do we need a fire or someone to climb the wall to celebrate New Year's
eve....and fall, before we realize that it's a timebomb waiting to go off??

Regards,

Craig

From: George Ziri [mailto:Georgeziri at bfms.com.au] 
Sent: Friday, 11 January 2013 5:01 PM
To: Tony Araujo; Matt Perkins; CSCL
Cc: ec at 200william.com
Subject: RE: [200William-EC] MARQUIS - NEW YEARS EVE SECURITY

Notwithstanding the fate of level 7 NYE...

Security generally do a satisfactory job. 

No incident was reported since security has been in place.

The rules for level 7 were part of the email documents which security did
not know receive. Hence the butts on Craigs terrace.

Perhaps level 7 should be beverage free. And additional rules for security
to remove any drunk persons.

One particular security guard has been invloved every new year since 2005
and knows the building well.

Perhaps strict instructions for security would diffuse any concern. 

The carept in the lift is being steam cleaned next week.

________________________________________________________ 
George Ziri | Operations

Building Facilities Management Solutions Pty Ltd

Direct: 0400 300 242 | Facsimile: 9547 3132 | PO BOX A2319 SYDNEY SOUTH NSW
1235

visit us  <http://www.bfms.com.au> www.bfms.com.au

From: ec-bounces at 200william.com [mailto:ec-bounces at 200william.com] On Behalf
Of Tony Araujo
Sent: Friday, 11 January 2013 4:46 PM
To: Matt Perkins; CSCL
Cc: ec at 200william.com
Subject: Re: [200William-EC] MARQUIS - NEW YEARS EVE SECURITY

Hi Everyone,

This is my first response to all this new year's saga.

Well,  it's all well said and done, and few comments are not sinking in my
mind. Let face it the building has been there for 12 years so it survived 12
new years  and so far the arrangements put in place did work and we never
had any issues. It is clear that this year the security filed and wasn't up
to the task so that is where the problem is and was for this year. So George
needs to make sure that in future a proper security is in place.

Now in response to comments form Matt and Craig, I do respect them as a
principle but? Guys let's face it, whether you want or not the majority of
the owners are investors and their asset is the premium that they bought
into, the building with views. So that is what attracts many tenants and
there is tenants rights that can't be ignored. Give access to the roof to
owners only? Please give me a break.

From: ec-bounces at 200william.com [mailto:ec-bounces at 200william.com] On Behalf
Of Matt Perkins
Sent: Friday, 11 January 2013 4:19 PM
To: CSCL
Cc: ec at 200william.com
Subject: Re: [200William-EC] MARQUIS - NEW YEARS EVE SECURITY

One thing I would say about NYE and closing the roof. If we do indeed close
the roof it's fair that we vote on it early and let residence know with
plenty of time to make other arrangements for NYE. It's hard to find
somewhere nice to go close to NYE. I think we need to start telling people
in early November to be fair. 

On 11/01/13 3:39 PM, CSCL wrote:

Hello Matt,

Thank you for your report on the evening.  It was diabolical.  Why do we, as
you state, continue to put ourselves and others at risk by having goons from
the outside come into our building and end up in a drug induced, alcoholic
state.....on level 7?

It's simply too dangerous for the owners to risk some visiting idiot falling
over the side of the building on New Year's eve.  Let us assume
responsibility for each of our own balconies but why are the owners put into
a potential lawsuit situation because of the idiots?

I'm all for closing the level 7 area on New Year's eve.  The last thing I
want is some strange body falling and having to be scrapped off my terrace
in the morning......along with cigarette butts!!

Cheers,

Craig

From: ec-bounces at 200william.com [mailto:ec-bounces at 200william.com] On Behalf
Of Matt Perkins
Sent: Friday, 11 January 2013 2:35 PM
To: ec at 200william.com
Subject: Re: [200William-EC] MARQUIS - NEW YEARS EVE SECURITY

Agree it's a good offer from George. (Im not sure it's entirely BFMS's
fault) Just seemed to be one of those things that happen.    I was on the
ground with security a few time's that night. Security guys were ok. But the
task they have is not  a simple one. There main problem this year was an
apartment on the ground floor had some very young very drunk guests. These
guests were so drunk they would have not have passed the RSA test at any
licensed venue and would have been required to leave. 

My estimate is that most people on the roof were guests of tenants from the
south side building.  Renters. I didnt see any owners up there.  Most of the
trouble came not when the Fireworks were on but between the fireworks.  The
young drunk's from Ground floor were in and out and up and down the lifts
constantly  spilling drinks on there way.  (that's where the stains on the
new carpet came from)  I booted people out of the Gym bathroom twice that I
found doing drugs. The bathroom facilities are not large enough for that
quantity of guests in any case. Especialy when alcohol is involved. 

Going forward if we were to continue the way we are going we need an
intoxication criteria. Security should have licensed venue type endorsements
on there security license any guest deemed intoxicated should be refused
entry to the roof. If they are on the roof and judged intoxicated should be
asked to leave if they do not police should be called. 

Alternatively we should consider not allowing any roof access for NYE.
Simply program the system not to accept swipes on the night lock the doors.
No need for security extra expense or perhaps leave us open to litigation
should some one be injured on NYE.  As most people attending were not owners
anyway Im thinking perhaps that's not a big problem. Worst case we could say
owners only no tenants that's going to limit it to the bare few. 

Another option may also be to only allow people on the roof 10 minutes
before and 10 minutes after the fireworks. This would still need guards to
enforce but we are talking 1 hour of roof time  a lot less time for things
to happen it's a measure of threat mitigation. 

Personalty I think we should lock up the roof on NYE and not allow access.
That way we dont need to pay for security. We dont need to get sued when
some drunk 17 year old smashes a beer bottle over the head of someone or any
number of things that could go wrong when you mix young people and large
quantities of alcohol.  It also stop's people running up and down to the
roof all night which takes up the lifts etc etc.  It much more trouble then
it's worth. 

Matt.

On 11/01/13 1:28 PM, CSCL wrote:

Thank you for the offer George to split the cost of the security charge.  I
think that is very fair.

And yes, I agree it's time to change the security people.  As I mentioned
this morning when I saw you, they did not check who was coming into the
building and were not vigilant with people on level 7.  We had 6 cigarette
butts thrown down onto my terrace.  When we asked the culprits to stop, they
continued to throw butts down.  Clearly, this 'security' team were not doing
their work.

Cheers,

Craig Laforest

From: ec-bounces at 200william.com [mailto:ec-bounces at 200william.com] On Behalf
Of George Ziri
Sent: Friday, 11 January 2013 11:06 AM
To: ec at 200william.com
Subject: [200William-EC] MARQUIS - NEW YEARS EVE SECURITY

Good Morning All,

On New Years Eve we learnt that security did not have a guest list for the
apartments. When I looked into the matter today we found that the email with
the guest list and rules for the security to enforce did not go through to
the security company. The file was to large. 

Security on the night improvised and partoled all areas randomly.

Over all the night was a success without incident.

This year we will bring the guest list register date early one week so that
we can provide security 1 weeks notice instead of 1 day. This will iron out
any issues or queries before the night.

As BFMS feel responsible for this matter, we will absorb half the cost of
the security invoice.

I hope this is received favourably.

.

________________________________________________________ 
George Ziri | Operations

Building Facilities Management Solutions Pty Ltd

Direct: 0400 300 242 | Facsimile: 9547 3132 | PO BOX A2319 SYDNEY SOUTH NSW
1235

visit us  <http://www.bfms.com.au> www.bfms.com.au

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