[200William-EC] MARQUIS - NEW YEARS EVE SECURITY

Fri Jan 11 17:20:16 EST 2013

Matt, 

I made two points that you are not commenting on:

1)      Your statement to give access just to owners

2)      It work all those years in the past

3)      Without a question the security didn't do what they suppose too
and that is a fact,  that's why this year was a mess out of control.

From: Matt Perkins [mailto:matt at spectrum.com.au] 
Sent: Friday, 11 January 2013 5:11 PM
To: Tony Araujo
Cc: CSCL; ec at 200william.com
Subject: Re: [200William-EC] MARQUIS - NEW YEARS EVE SECURITY

Would a tenant even know that the roof was unavailable for 1 night a
year when they take out a lease. There are existing restrictions on the
time the outdoor aria is available now every other night of the year.
You cant go out there at midnight any other night.  I want to have a
party out on the roof on Australia day at 2am why cant i.  It's the same
argument..  I cant believe you could possibly loose a tenant because
they could not access the roof 1 night a year.  I have a investment
property at Zenith .  The deck area at Zenith is  on top of the coke
sign and has one of the best views in Sydney for NYE. But guess what. No
access at all NYE/NYD. Many propertys in the Cross dont allow access to
area for example pool's and Gyms on NYE.  

With respect Tony you dont live there you dont know the mess and and
rubush let alone the hords drunk people running up and down the stairs
and blocking the lift every 15 - 20 min to scull a beer and then go back
up because you cant drink up stairs.  

Matt.

On 11/01/13 4:41 PM, Tony Araujo wrote:

	Hi Everyone,

	This is my first response to all this new year's saga.

	Well,  it's all well said and done, and few comments are not
sinking in my mind. Let face it the building has been there for 12 years
so it survived 12 new years  and so far the arrangements put in place
did work and we never had any issues. It is clear that this year the
security filed and wasn't up to the task so that is where the problem is
and was for this year. So George needs to make sure that in future a
proper security is in place.

	Now in response to comments form Matt and Craig, I do respect
them as a principle but? Guys let's face it, whether you want or not the
majority of the owners are investors and their asset is the premium that
they bought into, the building with views. So that is what attracts many
tenants and there is tenants rights that can't be ignored. Give access
to the roof to owners only? Please give me a break.

	From: ec-bounces at 200william.com
[mailto:ec-bounces at 200william.com] On Behalf Of Matt Perkins
	Sent: Friday, 11 January 2013 4:19 PM
	To: CSCL
	Cc: ec at 200william.com
	Subject: Re: [200William-EC] MARQUIS - NEW YEARS EVE SECURITY

	One thing I would say about NYE and closing the roof. If we do
indeed close the roof it's fair that we vote on it early and let
residence know with plenty of time to make other arrangements for NYE.
It's hard to find somewhere nice to go close to NYE. I think we need to
start telling people in early November to be fair. 

	On 11/01/13 3:39 PM, CSCL wrote:

		Hello Matt,

		Thank you for your report on the evening.  It was
diabolical.  Why do we, as you state, continue to put ourselves and
others at risk by having goons from the outside come into our building
and end up in a drug induced, alcoholic state...........on level 7?

		It's simply too dangerous for the owners to risk some
visiting idiot falling over the side of the building on New Year's eve.
Let us assume responsibility for each of our own balconies but why are
the owners put into a potential lawsuit situation because of the idiots?

		I'm all for closing the level 7 area on New Year's eve.
The last thing I want is some strange body falling and having to be
scrapped off my terrace in the morning..............along with cigarette
butts!!

		Cheers,

		Craig

		From: ec-bounces at 200william.com
[mailto:ec-bounces at 200william.com] On Behalf Of Matt Perkins
		Sent: Friday, 11 January 2013 2:35 PM
		To: ec at 200william.com
		Subject: Re: [200William-EC] MARQUIS - NEW YEARS EVE
SECURITY

		Agree it's a good offer from George. (Im not sure it's
entirely BFMS's fault) Just seemed to be one of those things that
happen.    I was on the ground with security a few time's that night.
Security guys were ok. But the task they have is not  a simple one.
There main problem this year was an apartment on the ground floor had
some very young very drunk guests. These guests were so drunk they would
have not have passed the RSA test at any licensed venue and would have
been required to leave. 

		My estimate is that most people on the roof were guests
of tenants from the south side building.  Renters. I didnt see any
owners up there.  Most of the trouble came not when the Fireworks were
on but between the fireworks.  The young drunk's from Ground floor were
in and out and up and down the lifts constantly  spilling drinks on
there way.  (that's where the stains on the new carpet came from)  I
booted people out of the Gym bathroom twice that I found doing drugs.
The bathroom facilities are not large enough for that quantity of guests
in any case. Especialy when alcohol is involved. 

		Going forward if we were to continue the way we are
going we need an intoxication criteria. Security should have licensed
venue type endorsements on there security license any guest deemed
intoxicated should be refused entry to the roof. If they are on the roof
and judged intoxicated should be asked to leave if they do not police
should be called. 

		Alternatively we should consider not allowing any roof
access for NYE. Simply program the system not to accept swipes on the
night lock the doors. No need for security extra expense or perhaps
leave us open to litigation should some one be injured on NYE.  As most
people attending were not owners anyway Im thinking perhaps that's not a
big problem. Worst case we could say owners only no tenants that's going
to limit it to the bare few. 

		Another option may also be to only allow people on the
roof 10 minutes before and 10 minutes after the fireworks. This would
still need guards to enforce but we are talking 1 hour of roof time  a
lot less time for things to happen it's a measure of threat mitigation. 

		Personalty I think we should lock up the roof on NYE and
not allow access. That way we dont need to pay for security. We dont
need to get sued when some drunk 17 year old smashes a beer bottle over
the head of someone or any number of things that could go wrong when you
mix young people and large quantities of alcohol.  It also stop's people
running up and down to the roof all night which takes up the lifts etc
etc.  It much more trouble then it's worth. 

		Matt.

		On 11/01/13 1:28 PM, CSCL wrote:

			Thank you for the offer George to split the cost
of the security charge.  I think that is very fair.

			And yes, I agree it's time to change the
security people.  As I mentioned this morning when I saw you, they did
not check who was coming into the building and were not vigilant with
people on level 7.  We had 6 cigarette butts thrown down onto my
terrace.  When we asked the culprits to stop, they continued to throw
butts down.  Clearly, this 'security' team were not doing their work.

			Cheers,

			Craig Laforest

			From: ec-bounces at 200william.com
[mailto:ec-bounces at 200william.com] On Behalf Of George Ziri
			Sent: Friday, 11 January 2013 11:06 AM
			To: ec at 200william.com
			Subject: [200William-EC] MARQUIS - NEW YEARS EVE
SECURITY

			Good Morning All,

			On New Years Eve we learnt that security did not
have a guest list for the apartments. When I looked into the matter
today we found that the email with the guest list and rules for the
security to enforce did not go through to the security company. The file
was to large. 

			Security on the night improvised and partoled
all areas randomly.

			Over all the night was a success without
incident.

			This year we will bring the guest list register
date early one week so that we can provide security 1 weeks notice
instead of 1 day. This will iron out any issues or queries before the
night.

			As BFMS feel responsible for this matter, we
will absorb half the cost of the security invoice.

			I hope this is received favourably.

			.

________________________________________________________ 
			George Ziri | Operations

			Building Facilities Management Solutions Pty Ltd

			Direct: 0400 300 242 | Facsimile: 9547 3132 | PO
BOX A2319 SYDNEY SOUTH NSW 1235

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